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a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is

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  • LilElvis
    LilElvis Posts: 5,835 Forumite
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    JethroUK wrote: »
    marital assets are accrued together if not equally

    the law lords recognise that "morality" and applied it in law and consequently divide assets equally irrespective of who contributed what

    This same "morality" applies whether they buy a ring or not, and it should apply "legally" as well

    Where did you get that from? If all assets are equally divided on divorce then can you explain why many couples end up in court in order to establish a financial settlement? Try reading JackRS thread re his protracted (and on going) attempts to reach a financial settlement with his ex-wife - I bet he would be swinging from the lamp-posts if he was to be awarded half of the marital assets.
  • peachyprice
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    LilElvis wrote: »
    Where did you get that from?

    The same place he got the idea that anyone who has ever written a cheque that has bounced has committed fraud, I guess ;)
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  • LilElvis
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    The same place he got the idea that anyone who has ever written a cheque that has bounced has committed fraud, I guess ;)


    From his first post on this thread it looks like it might be Judge Judy :D
  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Of course it shouldn't.

    Mariage is a legal process.

    Being together is not.

    The legal process is based upon morality, the same morality exists despite the ring and so should the legality
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  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    Guest101 wrote: »
    Its rarely equal. Your idea is abit silly. If you are worried about your assets, then don't accrue assets together. Make it clear.

    This is mine. This is yours.

    Only disposables are jointly bought (rent, food, utilities)

    Your argument could apply equally to people have a ring and those that don't

    So does the morality

    So should the law
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  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    I disagree, if you want all the legal benefits of marriage then get married, sign the contract.

    She cooks cleans looks after the baby
    He goes to the office, pays bills and mortgage (sue me for stereo typing)

    Although he ends up with 'all' the dough the law lords decided they contributed equally to the relationship and it should be distributed equally 'by law'

    This morality exists whether or not they got a ring

    So should the legality
    Also I don't think it's right to ask for everything back that you've bought or paid for in a relationship, when you break up. If you pay for something or give a gift of your own free will then it's a gift, not a loan you can try to reclaim if everything goes tits up.

    Again that applied whether or not they bought a ring
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Get married then. It's simple.

    If u want the rights, get married.

    If not, don't.

    Nothing to do with morality.
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    JethroUK wrote: »
    Proceeds of a relationship should be divided equally whether they were married or not

    600x400


    they are in a relationship
    she buys him loads of stuff
    he pays for nothing
    she cannot prove a loan because it was never loaned
    but morally he cannot walk away with all the stuff

    judge judy always says "we have courts for people who were married but we don't have courts for people that I just playing around"

    then she starts playing around with who "loaned " what to who

    but the laws deciding the outcome of a marriage are based on morality

    and that very same morality should be applied to people engaged in a romantic relationship

    a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is

    everyone comes out even

    I cannot agree with your opinion on this. Many people choose not to get married for reason such as assets, money etc so to basically devalue marriage and make a relationship the same you are more or less taking away people's choice on marriage.
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  • In parts of america they do have "common law marriage" for people who live together more than 6 years I think it is, but that doesn't apply in the uk. A lot of what you see on judge judy isn't law here, but she does talk a lot of common sense. prenups aren't really a legal contract in the uk either, people get them to help if they do get divorced but unless both parties still agree to it they don't have to abide by it.

    Are you talking from experince and miss understood the uk laws?
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  • Ectophile
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    JethroUK wrote: »
    The legal process is based upon morality, the same morality exists despite the ring and so should the legality

    The legal process is based on the law, as enacted by parliament. Morality is only a minor factor.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
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