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a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is
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marital assets are accrued together if not equally
the law lords recognise that "morality" and applied it in law and consequently divide assets equally irrespective of who contributed what
This same "morality" applies whether they buy a ring or not, and it should apply "legally" as well
Where did you get that from? If all assets are equally divided on divorce then can you explain why many couples end up in court in order to establish a financial settlement? Try reading JackRS thread re his protracted (and on going) attempts to reach a financial settlement with his ex-wife - I bet he would be swinging from the lamp-posts if he was to be awarded half of the marital assets.0 -
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peachyprice wrote: »The same place he got the idea that anyone who has ever written a cheque that has bounced has committed fraud, I guess

From his first post on this thread it looks like it might be Judge Judy
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Its rarely equal. Your idea is abit silly. If you are worried about your assets, then don't accrue assets together. Make it clear.
This is mine. This is yours.
Only disposables are jointly bought (rent, food, utilities)
Your argument could apply equally to people have a ring and those that don't
So does the morality
So should the lawWhen will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?0 -
fairy_lights wrote: »I disagree, if you want all the legal benefits of marriage then get married, sign the contract.
She cooks cleans looks after the baby
He goes to the office, pays bills and mortgage (sue me for stereo typing)
Although he ends up with 'all' the dough the law lords decided they contributed equally to the relationship and it should be distributed equally 'by law'
This morality exists whether or not they got a ring
So should the legalityfairy_lights wrote: »Also I don't think it's right to ask for everything back that you've bought or paid for in a relationship, when you break up. If you pay for something or give a gift of your own free will then it's a gift, not a loan you can try to reclaim if everything goes tits up.
Again that applied whether or not they bought a ringWhen will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?0 -
Get married then. It's simple.
If u want the rights, get married.
If not, don't.
Nothing to do with morality.0 -
Proceeds of a relationship should be divided equally whether they were married or not
they are in a relationship
she buys him loads of stuff
he pays for nothing
she cannot prove a loan because it was never loaned
but morally he cannot walk away with all the stuff
judge judy always says "we have courts for people who were married but we don't have courts for people that I just playing around"
then she starts playing around with who "loaned " what to who
but the laws deciding the outcome of a marriage are based on morality
and that very same morality should be applied to people engaged in a romantic relationship
a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is
everyone comes out even
I cannot agree with your opinion on this. Many people choose not to get married for reason such as assets, money etc so to basically devalue marriage and make a relationship the same you are more or less taking away people's choice on marriage.I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.0 -
In parts of america they do have "common law marriage" for people who live together more than 6 years I think it is, but that doesn't apply in the uk. A lot of what you see on judge judy isn't law here, but she does talk a lot of common sense. prenups aren't really a legal contract in the uk either, people get them to help if they do get divorced but unless both parties still agree to it they don't have to abide by it.
Are you talking from experince and miss understood the uk laws?MFW OP's 2017 #101 £829.32/£5000
MFiT-T4 - #46 £0/£45k to reduce mortgage total
04/16 Mortgage start £153,892.45
MFW 2015 #63 £4229.71/£3000 - old Mortgage0 -
The legal process is based upon morality, the same morality exists despite the ring and so should the legality
The legal process is based on the law, as enacted by parliament. Morality is only a minor factor.If it sticks, force it.
If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.0
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