a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is

JethroUK

Proceeds of a relationship should be divided equally whether they were married or not

they are in a relationship
she buys him loads of stuff
he pays for nothing
she cannot prove a loan because it was never loaned
but morally he cannot walk away with all the stuff

judge judy always says "we have courts for people who were married but we don't have courts for people that I just playing around"

then she starts playing around with who "loaned " what to who

but the laws deciding the outcome of a marriage are based on morality

and that very same morality should be applied to people engaged in a romantic relationship

a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is

everyone comes out even

InsideInsurance

JethroUK wrote: »

a romantic relationship should be dissolved in the same way that a marriage is

No, and to the best of my knowledge that isnt being proposed by anyone notable anyway.

The assets/ wealth accumulated whilst meaningfully together, not talking after just one date, should be divided in a proportion to the contribution each made - and to the best of my knowledge can be through the courts but its much harder than marriage. This thus includes not just financial input but giving up career to look after kids etc

If you own a £5m mansion and have a 3 month romance with a waiter/waitress you meet in a bar and moves in quickly as they got kicked out their old place etc you shouldnt have to give them £2.5m to move out

Guest101

Of course it shouldn't.

Mariage is a legal process.

Being together is not.


In essence when you marry, you sign a contract, that bind you and the other person as to some degree, one entity. - both parties do this willingly and its clearly evidenced (and witnessed)


Some people choose to be together for years and not get married. so in your example:
- If she is silly enough to pay for everything, whilst he does nothing - she has one person to blame. herself.

JethroUK

InsideInsurance wrote: »

No, and to the best of my knowledge that isnt being proposed by anyone notable anyway.

The assets/ wealth accumulated whilst meaningfully together, not talking after just one date, should be divided in a proportion to the contribution each made - and to the best of my knowledge can be through the courts but its much harder than marriage. This thus includes not just financial input but giving up career to look after kids etc

If you own a £5m mansion and have a 3 month romance with a waiter/waitress you meet in a bar and moves in quickly as they got kicked out their old place etc you shouldnt have to give them £2.5m to move out

But since the 5 million mansion was owned prior to the relationship it is not proceeds 'of' the relationship

My point being that once "in a relationship" assets tend to be accrued together irrespective of who earned what and who paid for what, and these assets should be dissolved in same way

exactly equal

because the same moral reasons apply

Tropez

No, it shouldn't.

The way some marriages are dissolved is already bad enough without protracted and expensive proceedings for relationships.

The only people who would really benefit from this are divorce lawyers.

Guest101

JethroUK wrote: »

But since the 5 million mansion was owned prior to the relationship it is not proceeds 'of' the relationship

My point being that once "in a relationship" assets tend to be accrued together irrespective of who earned what and who paid for what, and these assets should be dissolved in same way

exactly equal

because the same moral reasons apply

Its rarely equal. Your idea is abit silly. If you are worried about your assets, then don't accrue assets together. Make it clear.

This is mine. This is yours.

Only disposables are jointly bought (rent, food, utilities)

JethroUK

Guest101 wrote: »

Of course it shouldn't.

Mariage is a legal process.

Being together is not.


In essence when you marry, you sign a contract, that bind you and the other person as to some degree, one entity. - both parties do this willingly and its clearly evidenced (and witnessed)


Some people choose to be together for years and not get married. so in your example:
- If she is silly enough to pay for everything, whilst he does nothing - she has one person to blame. herself.

marital assets are accrued together if not equally

the law lords recognise that "morality" and applied it in law and consequently divide assets equally irrespective of who contributed what

This same "morality" applies whether they buy a ring or not, and it should apply "legally" as well

Guest101

JethroUK wrote: »

marital assets are accrued together if not equally

the law lords recognise that "morality" and applied it in law and consequently divide assets equally irrespective of who contributed what

This same "morality" applies whether they buy a ring or not, and it should apply "legally" as well

Your morals and other peoples morals are not the same.

rpc

You would need some sort of trigger to go from a hopeful-but-not-serious relationship to a serious relationship that creates this pool of assets.

Unless you suggest that a partner be entitled to half the house and pension because they spent a night or two?

So you'd have to go down to your registry office or another venue with a suitably qualified official, swear some oaths, sign some documents and then take away a certificate confirming your commitment. White dress and penguin suit optional.

If you want the financial and legal commitment provided by marriage, get married. If you don't want it, don't get married. Simples.

Georgiegirl256

Hardly! I can't think why anyone would think that is a good idea?

How long would you have to be in said relationship for before everything was split equally?

So if I was in a relationship for say a couple of years, and in that time I saved a substantial amount, then I should give them half of it? I don't think so!

fairy_lights

I disagree, if you want all the legal benefits of marriage then get married, sign the contract.
Also I don't think it's right to ask for everything back that you've bought or paid for in a relationship, when you break up. If you pay for something or give a gift of your own free will then it's a gift, not a loan you can try to reclaim if everything goes tits up.