Velodrome

The_Eng1neer

Hi guys
My PCN was issued in February near the Olympic Velodrome in London. It was issued by PCM UK Ltd on behalf of the Chobham Manor development (Taylor Wimpey) who presumably own the land.
I ignored the annoying sticky thing on the windscreen, didn't contact them and waited for the NTK. That arrived a week or so ago so I am in the process of using the template reply.
The driver wasn't the registered keeper but they don't know who was who.
The driver took photos showing there were no signs on the construction hoarding which the car was parked next to. I'm wondering whether those photos should be included in the rejection letter to the PPC ?
Any advice on this or other aspects would be appreciated
Thanks

Fergie76

Read the newbies thread and use the template appeal there, amending as appropriate to your own circumstances.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

The_Eng1neer

Hi Fergie76
I've done that but just wondered if I would do myself any harm to include a copy of photo's - i.e. does it help or hinder my case.
Cheers

Fergie76

I wouldn't bother with appeal to PPC and save them for POPLA appeal.

Umkomaas

Fergie76 wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with appeal to PPC and save them for POPLA appeal.

^^ +1 ^^

Sending them to the PPC is unlikely to get your initial appeal upheld, and you will be revealing your hand too early. So just use the NEWBIES sticky initial appeal 'as is'. Don't attempt to alter/embellish in any way.

Keep all your powder dry for POPLA, although GPEOL is your most potent appeal point at the POPLA appeal stage, signage issues will help strengthen your appeal further.

The_Eng1neer

Thanks guys; I appreciate the advice.

Fergie76

Just to clarify, when I said "I wouldn't bother with appeal to PPC", I meant including the photos, always appeal to the PPC.

The_Eng1neer

Will do Fergie76 but I'll just use the appeal template as-is.
Thanks

The_Deep

As this is an IAS affiliated company, and they are probably claiming that this sum is an agree contractual charge, there is the matter of v.a.t. which they may be trying to avoid.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...7925&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3796&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5195437&page=4

It follows therefore that, if there is no accounting for vat,it can be argued that they are in fact probably claiming for liquidated damages for a breach of contract, and the amount invoiced has to be a genuine pre-estimated for their losses as a direct result of the event.

The IAS Adjudicator will brush this aside as irrelevant, but a judge is llikely to be more receptive.

The_Eng1neer

Guys


I've had the appeal rejection from the PPC (Parking Control Management UK Ltd). From the flowchart, I assume I now appeal to the IPC ?


Cheers

Redx

you can do, no idea where the popla info earlier came from (an error ?)

did they say you had 21 days to appeal to the IAS ?

if so, you can try it, but will most likely fail