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How long SHOULD Scottish police keep records of speeding on file?

jon_viola
jon_viola Posts: 14 Forumite
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Hi,

Quick question.

Just had my CRB back (all fine) for some work I do with children. to my surprise in the any other information box (at the Cheif Constables discretion) it mentions a speeding fine I had in 2005.

I thought that all convictions were wiped from DVLA 4 years after being spent?

Anyone able to enlighten me?

Thanks

Jon
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  • Rolandtheroadie
    Rolandtheroadie Posts: 5,102 Forumite
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    It's not DVLA they're looking at, it's police records.

    Not sure, but is there 2 levels of CRB? A basic one, and one if you're working with vunerable people? (in your case, children, OH works in care and had an enhanced CRB done).

    I done some basic check on myself a few years ago and nothing showed up, but a freedom of information request to the chief constable showed my motoring offences from 1992.
  • comeandgo
    comeandgo Posts: 5,814 Forumite
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    I would hope the police keep information on convictions for ever more.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    I thought it was only offences that you had been charged , fingerprinted and photographed that stayed on , sad now because I upset a few traffic cars in my youth
  • Aretnap
    Aretnap Posts: 5,422 Forumite
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    Under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act it actually takes 5 years to become spent. The endorsement can be removed earlier, which is why the DVLA don't keep records beyond 4 years. But a CRB check is designed to be used for jobs which are exempt from the ROA so they're supposed to show both spent and unspent convictions. A record can be kept forevermore, but an ancient speeding ticket is unlikely to cause you any problems getting a job - it hardly marks you out as a kiddie fiddler, which is what your employers are mostly interested in.
  • Aretnap
    Aretnap Posts: 5,422 Forumite
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    It's not DVLA they're looking at, it's police records.

    Not sure, but is there 2 levels of CRB? A basic one, and one if you're working with vunerable people? (in your case, children, OH works in care and had an enhanced CRB done).

    I done some basic check on myself a few years ago and nothing showed up, but a freedom of information request to the chief constable showed my motoring offences from 1992.
    I'm prepared to be corrected, but AIUI a basic CRB check shows all convictions and cautions for recordable offences, spent and unspent. Minor motoring offences of any age would not show up as they're not recordable offences. However an enhanced CRB check shows all that and also anything else that the Chief Constable thinks is relevant, which may include offences you were investigated for but not charged with (post Ian Huntley), non-recordable convictions, speeding tickets etc.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    or even a fast fiddy fiddler




    however you never hear of !!!!!phile's driving past schools fast


    so a speeding offence proves you are not a !!!!!phile


    QED , you have got the job




    logic thinking
  • jon_viola
    jon_viola Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Odd isn't it!

    What surpises me is that they don't mention a speeding ticket I recieved in England in 2006. So is there a differnce between the two systems?
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    you say Cheif Constables discretion , was your Scottish offence in the same county as the chief constables check ,
  • ToriP
    ToriP Posts: 168 Forumite
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    I have had two enhanced CRB/DBS checks done since appearing in court for a motoring offence. Neither have shown up on the check.
  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,952 Forumite
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    I have had two enhanced CRB/DBS checks done in the last three years. neither mentioned the speeding fine I picked up in 2000, nor driving through a red light in 1985.
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