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Hi everyone,

Hope someone can answer this for me :)

broadband.jpg

Where:
  • "S" is a 2-way splitter
  • "µF" is the microfilter
I've just realised that I've missed off the downstairs phone which is plugged into the microfilter.

The upstairs extension socket doesn't have a microfilter plugged into it.

From my router's manual, it's suggesting that I should plug the microfilter directly into the master socket and then plug the splitter into the phone connector on the microfilter.

My system seems to work fine with the way I've got it, but I was wondering how MSErs have theirs set up?

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  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    I have:

    * Filtered faceplate at master box. (Faceplate has phone and "ADSL" sockets).
    * Fibre modem connected to "ADSL" socket (and BT Homehub connected to the modem)
    * Upstairs extension wired to back of filtered faceplate (terminals 2 and 5 only)
    * Plugin microfilter inserted into extension box (not 100% needed, but old habits die hard)
    * Wireless phone base station plugged in to that microfilter
  • stator
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    Your router shouldn't be plugged into a filter, it wouldn't work if it was?
    I suppose it's really a filter/splitter combo and has one port for non-filtered and one port for filtered?
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  • chunter
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    stator wrote: »
    Your router shouldn't be plugged into a filter, it wouldn't work if it was?
    I suppose it's really a filter/splitter combo and has one port for non-filtered and one port for filtered?
    Splitting hairs? I've never seen an ISP give out a filter that wasn't a filter -splitter combo. Pointless post, possibly causing needless ambiguity.
  • stator
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    Yes well anyway, the ideal situation is to have the router plugged directly into the master socket. The more splitters and extensions you have between them will only degrade your signal. So your current set up is fine, but could be better.
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  • GunJack
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    your phone splitter should be the other side of the microfilter. Also have you taken the ring wire off the back of the master socket faceplate??
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  • esuhl
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    From my router's manual, it's suggesting that I should plug the microfilter directly into the master socket and then plug the splitter into the phone connector on the microfilter.

    Yes -- I think the best set-up is to have a microfilter on the master socket, and then run separate phone & ethernet cabling in your house as required.

    If you have more than one phone, you can use a plain phone splitter (after the microfilter).

    The alternative is to run cable from the mastersocket throughout the house, and use a microfilter on every socket to split the phone & ethernet signals. I hear this doesn't work as well (but again, in my experience I hardly noticed any difference).
    stator wrote: »
    Your router shouldn't be plugged into a filter, it wouldn't work if it was?
    I suppose it's really a filter/splitter combo and has one port for non-filtered and one port for filtered?

    I wasn't aware this was how the microfilter/splitters worked. Are you saying that, on the standard microfilters that have two sockets (one for the phone and one for the router), the router socket is just a straightforward pass-through?

    In other words, if the only device you wanted to plug in to your ADSL phone line was a router, you wouldn't need a microfilter at all...?
  • GunJack
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    esuhl wrote: »
    I wasn't aware this was how the microfilter/splitters worked. Are you saying that, on the standard microfilters that have two sockets (one for the phone and one for the router), the router socket is just a straightforward pass-through?

    In other words, if the only device you wanted to plug in to your ADSL phone line was a router, you wouldn't need a microfilter at all...?

    no, this is wrong, the filters are blocking the telephony frequencies from the ADSL port of the filter, filtered faceplates do the same - you will always need the filter (of either physical type) in place
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  • stator
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    GunJack wrote: »
    no, this is wrong, the filters are blocking the telephony frequencies from the ADSL port of the filter, filtered faceplates do the same - you will always need the filter (of either physical type) in place
    No, ADSL modems are designed to be connected to POTS networks, they filter out anything outside the ADSL spectrum. Filters are only needed because analogue phones are dumb and don't know about ADSL.
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  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    esuhl wrote: »
    In other words, if the only device you wanted to plug in to your ADSL phone line was a router, you wouldn't need a microfilter at all...?

    Correct. If you have no intention of using a landline phone at all then no microfilter is necessary. (The filter part actually filters the phone connection, not the ADSL connection - ADSL is direct pass-through).
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