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Selling a house without the Deeds.

Father in Law has asked me to investigate how his house can be sold without the deeds which appear to be lost.

He has an "Official Copy of Register Entries" from the Land Registry with a title number which details the property address and a Proprietorship Register which details Father in Law and late Mother in Law as having "Title Absolute". It also shows the property outlined in red on a local map.

Mother in Law died 3 years ago and Father in Law is ill - he wants to know how easy it will be for the executors of his will to sell the house after his death.

He is asking this question now to enable him to sign/apply for any documentation before "it's too late".

Is the entry and title number on the Land Registry records sufficient for the executors to use or should there be more documentation?

Thanks in advance.
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  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    The short answer is yes. Deeds are really only of historic value .
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • TBagpuss
    TBagpuss Posts: 11,237 Forumite
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    edited 9 April 2015 at 11:45AM
    The office copies he has mean that the house is Registered, and as it is registered, there should be no problem at all. Registration at the Land Registry means that the physical deeds are no longer required. (they can sometimes be helpful, in relation to issues such as boundaries etc, but they are no longer the legal proof of ownership)
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • saabay
    saabay Posts: 57 Forumite
    You will need late Mother-in-Law's death certificate to clear her off the title.
  • katipip
    katipip Posts: 78 Forumite
    Thank you everyone for your helpful replies - I will ensure Mother in Laws death certificate is stored with the Title Deeds.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    saabay wrote: »
    You will need late Mother-in-Law's death certificate to clear her off the title.

    If the house was owned as 'joint tenants', you don't need to make any change to the title now.

    Both death certificates will be enough for the executors to sell the house after the second death.
  • saabay
    saabay Posts: 57 Forumite
    Both death certificates will be enough for the executors to sell the house after the second death.[/QUOTE]




    Plus the grant of probate for father in law (presuming he is deceased at that point).
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    saabay wrote: »
    Both death certificates will be enough for the executors to sell the house after the second death.

    Plus the grant of probate for father in law (presuming he is deceased at that point).[/QUOTE]

    Of course.

    What I meant was that there is no need to pay now to change the ownership into Dad's name at the LR.
  • saabay
    saabay Posts: 57 Forumite
    DJP (Death of Joint Proprietor) application is free. There is no requirement to do it but it just makes the title a bit tidier.
  • DaftyDuck
    DaftyDuck Posts: 4,609 Forumite
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    The real point of all the above posts, which are correct, is ...

    Tell F-I-L to stop worrying and enjoy life. Sorting out the house will be easy enough.
  • katipip
    katipip Posts: 78 Forumite
    When in laws made their wills they also applied to "Sever the joint tenancy" which has been registered under section B of the Land Registry document "Proprietorship Register"

    Do we still need to apply for a DJP??
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