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Speeding fine advice please

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  • Retrogamer
    Retrogamer Posts: 4,218 Forumite
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    Right so this seems a bit clearer on what's happened.

    He gets the choice of £100 fine with 3 points OR a driver awareness course.
    He (appears) to have chosen a date, then not been able to make the date. He also doesn't appear to have followed up on his original email / contact about not being able to make it

    Why was he not able to make the original course?

    When he's been summoned to court it is for the speeding offense. When pleading mitigating circumstances it should be for the speeding offense.

    Usually the road was clear, with no traffic or pedestrians, good weather you made a mistake and feel very guilty / sorry for breaking the law and for wasting the courts time with something so trivial.

    As he appears to have focused on the driver awareness course in his mitigation the court appear to have took that as a lack of remorse for the actual offense and possibly due to the previous motoring offense, coupled with no turning up to court to make the plea in person they probably decided to deliver a harsh lesson for him by giving him the maximum amount of points.

    Sorry for my lack of punctuation.
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  • k3l10151
    k3l10151 Posts: 21 Forumite
    Retrogamer not quite. He went to book the course but there was only one date available. He couldn't make that day due to work commitments so he first called then emailed to request a different date. (He was told on the phone this wouldn't be a problem)
    Next correspondence was court date due to him not attending course. He called again and was told to fill in forms citing mitigating circumstances and send to court. He did this and the fine & 6 points are the outcome.

    If he's done the wrong thing, fair enough. He thought he was following procedures. It still doesn't explain the points.
  • k3l10151
    k3l10151 Posts: 21 Forumite
    No he hasn't, I'll get him to check.
  • k3l10151
    k3l10151 Posts: 21 Forumite
    He needs to surrender it or he faces having it revoked.

    Not good :(
  • Retrogamer
    Retrogamer Posts: 4,218 Forumite
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    k3l10151 wrote: »
    Retrogamer not quite. He went to book the course but there was only one date available. He couldn't make that day due to work commitments so he first called then emailed to request a different date. (He was told on the phone this wouldn't be a problem)
    Next correspondence was court date due to him not attending course. He called again and was told to fill in forms citing mitigating circumstances and send to court. He did this and the fine & 6 points are the outcome.

    If he's done the wrong thing, fair enough. He thought he was following procedures. It still doesn't explain the points.

    As mentioned, when it goes to court the points are discretionary.
    3 to 6 is possible depending on lots of factors.

    His court summons was for the speeding offence. His mitigation should have been focusing on the speeding offense, and trying to convince them it wasn't dangerous and he feels remorse. He's done the wrong thing by trying to explain why he never attended the course.

    Not always but usually explaining the mitigating circumstances in person whilst in a suit will carry a lot more weight than putting the plea in writing. As silly as that sounds due to how trivial it is and wasting the court's time that's generally what happens.

    The 6 points are harsh, i agree. But i'm unsure if the can be appealed and if they were, if it would be successful given the circumstances
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