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New employer has too many rules, not comfortable, need Advice

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  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    edited 4 April 2015 at 2:38PM
    So your new workplace has

    No food at your desk - pretty normal in most workplaces
    Yes to drinks but must have lids which the company supply -again SOP
    No blue jeans -allowing black as a concession -simple dresscode- again very normal
    You've only been there two weeks and they don't want you messing with code "creatively" until they have your measure ? Does this really sound unreasonable to you - it doesn't to me !

    Presumably you took this job as it offered advantages like more pay, better location maybe better prospects or perhaps you were unemployed. No job is perfect - and if informality and a more creative atmosphere is important to you then perhaps this isn't the right job for you. Frankly if you are already making comments about how you don't like the way things are done to your workmates and getting such non committal responses odds are they have you tagged as a moaner and complainer already -which may not be the impression you are hoping to project in this job.

    My then husband made this kind of move - he went from a smaller , informally managed but very successful company who treated him fantastically to a multinational where he worked an awfully lot harder and had to conform to a corporate style - the rewards in terms of both money and progression were huge (he's now NY based at a high level .

    He missed the feeling of belonging in the smaller company (we used to joke the directors treated the employees and their families better than their own kids ) - but he knows there was an exchange to be made - and he went for the corporate rewards, recognition and security - only you can decide if you want to be a smaller fish to start with in a larger pond - with the possibility of becoming a bigger fish in time ......or not - but worth deciding before you get bogged down in trivalities like coffee lids and the colour of a pair of jeans !!!
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  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 17,965 Forumite
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    My employer doesn't permit jeans of any colour so you actually have a more relaxed dress code that we do. They did try to ban eating of food at the desk but as there is no staff room or rest area they had to drop that one. The cups with lids one does seem excessive but I can only assume they've had problems in the past.
    As for not being allowed to be "creative with coding", thank God for that. The last thing any company needs is somebody doing their own thing with software. Presumably they didn't know your attitude before you started the job. To be honest, I think you have a problem - not the employer. They are of course free to 'let you go' at any time. That may be soon!
  • theoretica
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    f1621688 wrote: »
    T I was hired for skills based on interview which was for making architecture level changes to software, I told them I enjoy that sort of work. Now I am being told that those kind of changes require permissions or are done by another team etc.
    [...]

    During the interview a large set of skills are requested of you, you should be able to do this, do that etc then after hire they want you to be a code monkey. I feel frustrated.

    So either they discovered they could get very over qualified people and thought why not (are they paying code monkey nuts or not?) or they are testing you out, assimilating you into the way they do things and plan to make more use of your abilities later on.

    I think requiring permissions is fairly standard - things may be the way they are for an obscure reason or there may be something they would rather you spent your time on.
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  • London50
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    I wore the same dress during interview and I was not told all these things before I took up employment. If I had been, I would have looked elsewhere. At the interview they were very eager for me to join them.

    During the interview a large set of skills are requested of you, you should be able to do this, do that etc then after hire they want you to be a code monkey. I feel frustrated.

    Then hand in your notice and move on to a company that does things the way you want. It is plain you are not happy there so no matter what perks ect got you to take the job in the first place it would be better for all parties, they can get a person that is happy with the rules and you will be happy with your new employer that thinks along your lines.
  • Cyberman60
    Cyberman60 Posts: 2,472 Forumite
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    If you look at the Calender you will see it is 2015 and we have a Tory lead Government that is about to walk the election due to inept opposition (much to my Disdain.
    If you are lucky enough to have a real job outside one of the many schemes and wage avoidance scams you keep your trap shut and head down.


    On the contrary I'd suggest waiting until just after the election and if we get a Tory led government, go contract and earn wads of dosh in a thriving economy, otherwise if Labour, leave the country. :p
  • DKLS
    DKLS Posts: 13,461 Forumite
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    If you don't like the terms Op and they do seem pretty miserable for a coding environment, get out and go contracting where you will have the freedoms from petty rules.

    Its been 20 years since I worked somewhere that you couldn't eat or drink at your desk.
  • Tiddlywinks
    Tiddlywinks Posts: 5,777 Forumite
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    Welcome to the GROWN UP world of work - you know, the one where the company sets the rules.

    This isn't a social club, nor is it a democracy. It's s privately owned business.

    You sound like a sulky teenager who can't have his way - life is full of rules, you have to learn to deal with it.
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  • CCFC_80
    CCFC_80 Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    DKLS wrote: »
    If you don't like the terms Op and they do seem pretty miserable for a coding environment, get out and go contracting where you will have the freedoms from petty rules.

    Its been 20 years since I worked somewhere that you couldn't eat or drink at your desk.



    I can relate to the OP's issues but you just have to get on with it.
    I have recently started a new job and was surprised to learn also no eating at desk when also allowed to eat at desk always previously in about 30 years of similar clerical positions. Each employer to their own and I ain't gonna rock the boat. I'm not gonna look for a new job on the basis I can't eat at my desk.
  • Dr._Shoe
    Dr._Shoe Posts: 563 Forumite
    Ok OP. Suppose you were the MD of that company:

    In the past you have had expensive equipment ruined by crumbs and other debris, you have lost potential clients because the office was untidy with discarded food packets and half-eaten sandwiches lying about, you have have lost potential million pound contracts because some muppet was swanning around in scruffy clothes and above all, you have had to pay out millions in replacing kit that has been damaged by spilt drinks. Perhaps you would be worried about disgruntled employees leaving viruses behind or breaking a system you'd spent years (and a lot of money) developing. You might even have a concern that a new employee is a plant from a rival whose intent is to sabotage your business?

    What would you do?

    If you came to work for me I would apply the same rules, especially the eating at the desk one given that I would have to be careful of the working time directive.

    A kid (well he was in his twenties) told me that he was more likely to get a job in software development because he had purple hair. When I asked him why he thought that he said it was because it shows that he can think "outside the box". He was wrong, all it shows is that he has purple hair. He is still unemployed two years later.

    I'm betting that they are waiting to see how you settle in before letting you in on more demanding projects that let you show off your skills.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    I'm guessing you're in your 20s, OP?

    My husband earns a lot of money fixing the often very creative (non-functional) code so I can understand why your employers don't want you doing that.

    I question how experienced you can actually be - you sound incredibly young and naive.
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