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Received two Parking charge notices from VCS at john lennon airport

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  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    Dedicated to driving up standards in parking
  • adep_2
    adep_2 Posts: 25 Forumite
    I also have an interesting witness statement from JLA but to big to post on here. If you would like a copy lmk and I will email it to you or maybe you can get it on here for everyone to see
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 17 July 2015 at 8:08AM
    Confidentiality agreement my a**e. It takes two to conclude an agreement!

    Upload the document to some free file-sharing site and post a link to it. If you haven't got enough posts to post links here, change "http" to "hxxp" and then someone will re-post it fixed.

    You might also drop a line to the IAS stating that you decline their offered confidentiality agreement and pointing out that they cannot impose this on you either unilaterally or retrospectively.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • adep wrote: »

    The contractual offer is that driver's are not permitted to stop, but if they choose to then they agree to pay the Parking Charge.

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    So what is it that belongs to the driver that is not permitted to stop?

    I suspect one of the reasons for attempting confidentiality is that the IPC don't want anybody to see the standard of English being used.

    Do they really expect people to believe that a qualified barrister would make that sort of grammatical error?
  • adep_2
    adep_2 Posts: 25 Forumite
    LiverpoolJohn noiW
    LennonAirport (N.71/
    above us only sky
    WITNESS STATEMENT
    On behalf of Liverpool Airport Limited (the "Landowner")I can confirm that:
    • The site is Liverpool John Lennon Airport.
    • The Landowner is the owner of the site.
    • The Operator is Vehicle Control Services Limited
    • The Operator has the authority of the Landowner to undertake parking management, control and enforcement at the site.
    • This authority is contained in an agreement dated 2501July 2013 (the "Agreement") running from 8 July 2013 to 7 July 2015
    • The Operator is authorised by the Landowner to issue parking charge notices where vehicles are parked on the site in a manner not permitted under the terms and conditions of the parking policy contained within the Agreement.
    • The terms and conditions are as clearly set out on signage at the site and, where applicable, with any permit or dispensation for use at the site.
    • The issuing of parking charge notices is subject to agreed criteria and exemptions, as also as clearly set out on signage at the site and, where applicable, with any permit or dispensation for use at the site.
    • The Operator is authorised to issue a parking charge notice for breach of any of the terms and conditions referred to above.
    • The Operator is authorised by the Landowner to pursue the outstanding parking charges in accordance with the British Parking Association Approved Operator Scheme Code of Practice.
      I confirm that I am authorised to make this statement on behalf of the Landowner and that the above information is true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
      9k=
      Signature
      M52CuPlfub9neLpfsRh8ASU9QoAOw==Name OA .SINci,u_aii‘.
      png;base64,R0lGODlhUwAEAHcAMSH+GlNvZnR3YXJlOiBNaWNyb3NvZnQgT2ZmaWNlACH5BAEAAAAALAIAAQBQAAMAgAAAAAAAAAIrRIChecxtkFlTqnNty0lvSC0cVTnmGKbas05fW0by3NXWLeUzZPM7DvQBCgA7For and on behalf of Liverpool Airport Limited Date................................
      Liverpool John Lennon Airport I Liverpool, UK I 124 1YD I +44 (0) 871 521 8484 I www.liverpoolairport.com
      Registered In England and Wales No 2116704 Company name and Registered Office Liverpool Airport limited b,erpoo! iohn Lenmin Airport, Liverpool (.24 1YD
      A member of Vantage Airports UK
  • Northlakes
    Northlakes Posts: 826 Forumite
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    edited 17 July 2015 at 12:59PM
    The BPA code of practice I notice not the IPC!

    So I would say that any VCS charges issued are completely invalid since they joined the IPC.
    REVENGE IS A DISH BETTER SERVED COLD
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    Well if they are required to operate in accordance with the BPA CoP then they must offer PoPLA. No PoPLA = no authority.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Zero_Gravitas
    Zero_Gravitas Posts: 583 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 17 July 2015 at 1:22PM
    adep wrote: »
    LiverpoolJohn noiW
    LennonAirport (N.71/
    above us only sky
    WITNESS STATEMENT
    On behalf of Liverpool Airport Limited (the "Landowner")I can confirm that:
    • The site is Liverpool John Lennon Airport.
    • The Landowner is the owner of the site.
    • The Operator is Vehicle Control Services Limited
    • The Operator has the authority of the Landowner to undertake parking management, control and enforcement at the site.
    • This authority is contained in an agreement dated 2501July 2013 (the "Agreement") running from 8 July 2013 to 7 July 2015
    • The Operator is authorised by the Landowner to issue parking charge notices where vehicles are parked on the site in a manner not permitted under the terms and conditions of the parking policy contained within the Agreement.
    • The terms and conditions are as clearly set out on signage at the site and, where applicable, with any permit or dispensation for use at the site.
    • The issuing of parking charge notices is subject to agreed criteria and exemptions, as also as clearly set out on signage at the site and, where applicable, with any permit or dispensation for use at the site.
    • The Operator is authorised to issue a parking charge notice for breach of any of the terms and conditions referred to above.
    • The Operator is authorised by the Landowner to pursue the outstanding parking charges in accordance with the British Parking Association Approved Operator Scheme Code of Practice.
      I confirm that I am authorised to make this statement on behalf of the Landowner and that the above information is true to the best of my knowledge and belief.
      9k=
      Signature
      M52CuPlfub9neLpfsRh8ASU9QoAOw==Name OA .SINci,u_aii‘.
      png;base64,R0lGODlhUwAEAHcAMSH+GlNvZnR3YXJlOiBNaWNyb3NvZnQgT2ZmaWNlACH5BAEAAAAALAIAAQBQAAMAgAAAAAAAAAIrRIChecxtkFlTqnNty0lvSC0cVTnmGKbas05fW0by3NXWLeUzZPM7DvQBCgA7For and on behalf of Liverpool Airport Limited Date................................
      Liverpool John Lennon Airport I Liverpool, UK I 124 1YD I +44 (0) 871 521 8484 I www.liverpoolairport.com
      Registered In England and Wales No 2116704 Company name and Registered Office Liverpool Airport limited b,erpoo! iohn Lenmin Airport, Liverpool (.24 1YD
      A member of Vantage Airports UK



    Notice also that this agreement expired last week - 07 July 2015....


    And later: "The Operator is authorised to issue a parking charge notice for breach of any of the terms and conditions referred to above". So VCS are not actually authorised to issue PCNs for any sort of contractual arrangement they think might exist... Doesn't that rather scupper their business model at the airport?

  • Northlakes
    Northlakes Posts: 826 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    VCS can't be the brightest lights on the tree!
    REVENGE IS A DISH BETTER SERVED COLD
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