Congestion charge help.!

Retrogamer

I'd advise against sending recorded delivery.
If it doesn't reach DVLA then you become liable for that because you have the ability to check if it's been delivered.

If you post it regular first class and get proof of posting then you have for filled your obligation and you can just assume it reaches them. This way means you aren't liable if it doesn't reach them because you have no way of knowing.

I'd always keep the details of the new keeper after i send off the V5 as advised on it so that when things like this happen you can just advise them who the driver likely was.

Quentin

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Moral of the story here - send EVERYTHING to DVLA Recorded Delivery.....

Recorded Delivery is a waste of money. Free proof of posting is as much use and the moneysaving way to do it.


Most would say the moral of the story here is when you sell your car to a stranger you should keep a copy of all their details - and get them sign an agreement the time the transfer took place.


(They could drive through half a dozen speed traps etc on the day of the sale and you end up getting the grief)

chrismal

I'm sending it via fax, so it will arrive today.

BeenThroughItAll

Retrogamer wrote: »

I'd advise against sending recorded delivery.
If it doesn't reach DVLA then you become liable for that because you have the ability to check if it's been delivered.

If you post it regular first class and get proof of posting then you have for filled your obligation and you can just assume it reaches them. This way means you aren't liable if it doesn't reach them because you have no way of knowing.

I'd always keep the details of the new keeper after i send off the V5 as advised on it so that when things like this happen you can just advise them who the driver likely was.

Whatever works for you. I use RD because then I can see it's been delivered. As far as I'm concerned, and I'd be happy to take it to court, that's all the proof I need that DVLA have received and become responsible for the document I'm sending.


Proof of posting is great, but I haven't got the time or energy to argue the toss with DVLA (which I have previously had to do) that my obligation ends with proof the document has been posted to the correct address. I know that's the truth. You know that's the truth; but try convincing the average subhuman DVLA customer service adviser that it's true.


When I have had to query a problem with a document sent RD, (which I had cause to do when I sent several V5s off at the same time when I moved, two of which were actioned and one wasn't despite being sent on the same day at the same time, from the same PO, in separate envelopes, and all delivered on the same day) as soon as I mentioned that I had a delivery record for the item, DVLA just accepted it was their fault and miraculously actioned the change of address the same day. V5 was back two days later.

Quentin

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Whatever works for you. I use RD because then I can see it's been delivered. As far as I'm concerned, and I'd be happy to take it to court, that's all the proof I need that DVLA have received and become responsible for the document I'm sending.


Proof of posting is great, but I haven't got the time or energy to argue the toss with DVLA (which I have previously had to do) that my obligation ends with proof the document has been posted to the correct address. I know that's the truth. You know that's the truth; but try convincing the average subhuman DVLA customer service adviser that it's true.


When I have had to query a problem with a document sent RD, (which I had cause to do when I sent several V5s off at the same time when I moved, two of which were actioned and one wasn't despite being sent on the same day at the same time, from the same PO, in separate envelopes, and all delivered on the same day) as soon as I mentioned that I had a delivery record for the item, DVLA just accepted it was their fault and miraculously actioned the change of address the same day. V5 was back two days later.

Nevertheless it is bad advice (both financially and legally) to shout at us:

BeenThroughItAll wrote:

.....send EVERYTHING to DVLA Recorded Delivery

You carry on doing it your way, but no-one should copy you for the reasons already posted.

Retrogamer

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Whatever works for you. I use RD because then I can see it's been delivered. As far as I'm concerned, and I'd be happy to take it to court, that's all the proof I need that DVLA have received and become responsible for the document I'm sending.

That's not what i was meaning.
I was meaning if you sent it recorded delivery and for reasons unknown they don't receive it you can be found at least partially liable for this in court because they would claim you had the ability to know it hadn't been delivered due to lack of signature.

Where as if you sent it regular post, get proof of posting and have no way of knowing if it reached them or not then you can't be found liable.

chrismal

Guys let not get caught up with a topic tangent, thank you for your help and advice.

The seller has been on to me saying he no longer has the car and it's been passed onto someone else. So whoever has paid the tax on the car will get the bill... if he's even telling the truth.

I'll post back if I hear anything else.

Thanks again.!

Retrogamer

Seems a bit strange to sell a car on before you receive the V5.
Either way you won't be held accountable so if he did or didn't sell it the charges will be someone elses problem.

BeenThroughItAll

Quentin wrote: »

Nevertheless it is bad advice (both financially and legally) to shout at us:

That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think? One word in capitals is emphasis. An entire sentence, shouting.


I will continue to do as I have, you are of course free to disagree.

Strider590

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Moral of the story here - send EVERYTHING to DVLA Recorded Delivery.
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I read somewhere they'd gotten wise and started refusing to accept anything sent by recorded delivery. But i'd still do it anyway......