Excel Parking (Peel Centre Stockport) - IAS stage!

martinbickley

sportmonday I'm in exactly the same position as you. Emailed my initial appeal and got the same reply back.

What did you decide to do in the end?

Thanks


Martin

Marktheshark

The_Deep wrote: »

No-one has mentioned v.a.t.

If this is a contractual charge, then vat must be accounted for, has it?

Some reading

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...7925&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3796&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5195437&page=4> ,

I would advocate that you appeal. If you win, (unlikely), it is game over.

If you lose, it is likely to be so flawed and partial to the PPC that, were you to produce it in court, it would swing things for you.

There is a defence in Law that you can refuse to assist someone breaking the law.
By paying an invoice to a company that should be charging VAT but avoiding VAT then you would be assisting in VAT avoidance .

Like all defences, they have to be tried at court stage.
Would they want a defence of not assisting a crime be tested ?

Herzlos

Fruitcake wrote: »

My opinion is that all IAS appeals should be made because win or lose, it costs the PPC money. It also shows willing in the unlikely event that it ever got to court.

That's my opinion as well, it shows you've been as reasonable as possible, and if the appeal/rejection make it into court it'll make them look unreasonable as well as exposing the sham that is their appeals process.

You just need to go into it knowing that the appeal is already rejected.

You should also send off an appeal to the DVLA for breaches to the KADOE contract, and the SRA (Solicitors Regulation Authority?) for the dodgy practises of the solicitor that supposedly handles the impartial appeal, though the IAS don't name them.

nelly30

Hi, just wondering how you got on, im in exactly same situation, visited kfc on peel center with my family on bank holiday Monday and presumed it was free as I parked in what I believed to be the kfc car park, not from stockport but all the fast food chains on the other side of Manchester are free to use if your dining.
I need to appeal to the IAS but am already thinking that it's pointless...

Redx

it is pointless

the red bays at KFC are 15 minutes only, the rest of that vast car park is pay and display, has been for years, and is a well known "honeytrap" , to be avoided at all costs

once they have their hooks into you, with a pcn, they have 6 years to pursue it, sometimes they do issue court papers too (an MCOL)

but the current advice is IGNORE anything apart from an LBC from EXCEL , or court papers from Northampton or Salford, initiated by excel

Peel Holdings wont care if you write to them either , they certainly wont cancel the ticket

nelly30

Thanks. I will appeal it and fully expect to lose as I'm sure they are a bent firm too, I've already contacted kfc and as you've said wanted to do nothing but did say they hoped it wouldn't put me off visiting them again...
I did read somewhere someone won on the basis of the lettering being too small, presumably to help increase revenue for excel!!
Not sure how to word my appeal, truthfully would be I didn't realise I had to pay but that'll get me no where, tempted to copy some of the one's I've seen on here.

Redx

in the past you will have seen people win in court, like Martin Cutts, ON LETTERING etc, but they have changed their signas many times since then

they regularly lost at popla, so they moved to the IPC in jan 2015 and now use the IAS

use whatever wording you find , especially any 2015 IAS appeals , just assume it will be rejected

the place has been a honeytrap for maybe 4 to 6 years or more, worse since they changed it to pay and display 24/7 a couple of years ago

nelly30

It certainly is a honeytrap but you'd think by now that this would have been stopped, it's just wrong. Can't believe the amount of people who are or have been in same position...watchdog need to do a program on it!!

Redx

nelly30 wrote: »

It certainly is a honeytrap but you'd think by now that this would have been stopped, it's just wrong. Can't believe the amount of people who are or have been in same position...watchdog need to do a program on it!!

they did years ago, on that very car park when Martin Cutts was involved (or maybe it was Martin Lewis ? , or him for watchdog ? cant remember now, deffo a program on it though)

plus they did another one last year (not about the Peel Centre ) , plus they did a follow up a few weeks ago too, where they infiltrated one of the parking companies, and Patrick Troy refused an interview, unlike last year when he was in front of Miss Robinson !

plus the following day (again a few weeks ago) DOM LITTLEWOOD did one as well where he met the parking prankster ( have you read parking pranksters websites and blogs ? )

and JLA was on ripoff britain about 6 months ago, with Angela Rippon

plus there was a government survey recently which ended about the beginning of june (initiated by Eric Pickles)

plus the Daily Mail and other papers ran lots of stories about it 12 months ago

I apologise if I have missed any out, am sure there are more , lol

nelly30

Wow...and there still out ripping people off! Just been reading the parking prankster actually as I've been looking round for a decent appeals letter that fits in with what I want to say. Some of the transcripts of his dealings are good!