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The next phase begins - time to clarify my thinking...

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  • steelbru
    steelbru Posts: 131 Forumite
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    I was going to post this in the Pensions part of the forum, but since we're talking about SIPPs and the 6.25% gain...........

    I've taken early retirement, and am already getting a DB pension paid monthly, I'm a lower rate taxpayer.

    Does this pension income count as "earnings" when working out how much can be paid into a SIPP ? Or for SIPP purposes do I count as having no earnings and would be limited to £3600 gross ( £2880 net ) ?

    I have almost 6 figure sum in a S&S account, which I will Bed'n'ISA £15k'ish a year into a S&S ISA, but was wondering if I could get an extra 6.25% by also putting some into a SIPP every year ?

    Also, I understand you're not supposed to re-invest any money that's been paid to you as part of a TFC lump sum back into a pension. How do they determine this if I already had savings before receiving the TFC lump sum ?
  • badger09
    badger09 Posts: 11,577 Forumite
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    steelbru wrote: »
    I was going to post this in the Pensions part of the forum, but since we're talking about SIPPs and the 6.25% gain...........

    I've taken early retirement, and am already getting a DB pension paid monthly, I'm a lower rate taxpayer.

    Does this pension income count as "earnings" when working out how much can be paid into a SIPP ? Or for SIPP purposes do I count as having no earnings and would be limited to £3600 gross ( £2880 net ) ?


    I have almost 6 figure sum in a S&S account, which I will Bed'n'ISA £15k'ish a year into a S&S ISA, but was wondering if I could get an extra 6.25% by also putting some into a SIPP every year ?

    Also, I understand you're not supposed to re-invest any money that's been paid to you as part of a TFC lump sum back into a pension. How do they determine this if I already had savings before receiving the TFC lump sum ?

    I'm in a similar position :)

    I'm afraid you're limited to £2880 net, £3600 gross.
  • steelbru
    steelbru Posts: 131 Forumite
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    Thanks for reply badger09.

    Did you do it in the end, or did you not think it was worth it for 6.25% on £2880, ie £180 pa ?

    Is it 3 years unused allowance you can go back on pension contributions ? Does that mean I could start off with £8640 contribution now, then 6th April another £2880 ?
  • saver861
    saver861 Posts: 1,408 Forumite
    steelbru wrote: »
    Thanks for reply badger09.

    Did you do it in the end, or did you not think it was worth it for 6.25% on £2880, ie £180 pa ?

    As above, I'm on an occupational pension and limited to the £2880.

    If you are a non tax payer it would definitely be worth it - as for being brt - I can't make my mind up to be bothered to do it or not.
  • steelbru
    steelbru Posts: 131 Forumite
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    Yeh, not decided either.

    It's £180, so "free" money, but the money I would be putting in is already invested, so cost of selling then buying again. Plus the SIPP yearly fees, which on my current platform iWeb would be about £90pa I think, or go with an alternative platform the cheapest I've seen is 0.3%pa which would be a lot cheaper.
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    edited 26 March 2015 at 3:34PM
    steelbru wrote: »

    Is it 3 years unused allowance you can go back on pension contributions ? Does that mean I could start off with £8640 contribution now, then 6th April another £2880 ?

    No: your permitted contributions are capped by your annual earnings, or £3600 gross if bigger. The pension you receive is "income" but not "earnings".


    Also:
    http://www.aviva-for-advisers.co.uk/site/public/tech-centre/tech-article-detail/recycling-tax-free-cash
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • mgmen
    mgmen Posts: 1 Newbie
    Work on the assumption that it won't survive.

    Thanks for sharing this. I was really inspired from you. :T
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