Largest housing rally ever across the UK

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Coveredinbees!!!! wrote: »

So basically they should concrete over the green belt.

Yes they will have to. The fact is that the population is increasing even without immigration as people are living longer.

Unless the UK has a chinese type policy where the number of children families have is controlled then the population will increase.

The housing market in the UK is becoming a real problem that will have longer term consequences unless something is done about it. It is actually becoming a blight on the economy.

cells

Coveredinbees!!!! wrote: »

So basically they should concrete over the green belt.

Green belt is no more special than farmland which itself is artifical intensively farmed land not its natural state which would be woodland

They should rename it farmland-belt

And yes homes should be built on farm land as they always have been

cells

Generali wrote: »

I suspect thatcan't jist the Home Counties that a lot of people become Councillors to oppose housing just as it used to be normal for publicans to become magistrates overrulee licensing applications.

Thats a good point if it happens.

Did you watch the BBC programs about the planners?

From that I gather that the councilors cant just say no to everything if they do it in a way that doesn't meet the local plan developers can object and its passed onto someone higher who can overrule

So in essence the local plan is king and the people writing the local plan (the council's head planners???) Are the ones who set the path

so what needs changing is the local plans to reflect actual need.


eg the London plan is for 48k homes a year. But the Enfield plan is for ~500 homes a year. That makes no sense at all because the ebfield plan shoild be for 1800 homes a year which would be their per capita contribution to reaching the London plan

I've said this before but I reckon if you took all the London councils local plans and added them together it would undershoot the overall London plan.

so the mayor and his team are mugs

ukcarper

cells wrote: »

Green belt is no more special than farmland which itself is artifical intensively farmed land not its natural state which would be woodland

They should rename it farmland-belt

And yes homes should be built on farm land as they always have been

I disagree green belt performs a useful purpose in stopping everything merging into one that's not to say there isn't scope for building on it. As for farmland I'm not sure how much farmland in the Home Counties is actually farmed as far as I can see most is given over to horses.

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ukcarper wrote: »

As for farmland I'm not sure how much farmland in the Home Counties is actually farmed as far as I can see most is given over to horses.

Yes that and golf courses.

cells

ukcarper wrote: »

I disagree green belt performs a useful purpose in stopping everything merging into one that's not to say there isn't scope for building on it. As for farmland I'm not sure how much farmland in the Home Counties is actually farmed as far as I can see most is given over to horses.

Whats the problem with merging together?

Towns and cities would never have formed if that policy was in place in the past.

Also there is probably the space for 2-3milliom homes within the M25 which should be the boundary of London. That's 40-60 years supply at a much higher build rate

ukcarper

cells wrote: »

Whats the problem with merging together?

Towns and cities would never have formed if that policy was in place in the past.

Also there is probably the space for 2-3milliom homes within the M25 which should be the boundary of London. That's 40-60 years supply at a much higher build rate

Because most people don't want the Home Counties to become one big city.

purch

There is plenty of space to build whole new towns within the green belt without everything merging together, and certainly not "concreting over" it, which is a silly emotive phrase.

ukcarper

purch wrote: »

There is plenty of space to build whole new towns within the green belt without everything merging together, and certainly not "concreting over" it, which is a silly emotive phrase.

Not much room for than inside M25 especially to west and for rest of Home Counties depend on what you would call a town. The develoment in Wisley would not have that much effect in terms of merging but it's a village not a town there is room for more villages like that in Surrey but the infrastructure would need to be improved.

cells

ukcarp975431 wrote:

Because most people don't want the Home Counties to become one big city.

There is no conceivable way that could happen there is just too much land in the home countries and not enough demand to convert it into 'one big city'

A place like essex should be adding ~10,000 new homes a year to their stock of ~740,000 homes. That is just adding 1 home per 100 acrrs of land......

Much smaller London should be adding 50,000 to 100,000 a year and there is actually the demand to sustain 100k new builds per year in London