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IAS Appeal Dismissed - What do I do now?

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  • Thanks all. It's just frustrating to see these sorts of letters. They are very well worded to make it sound like they have any ground at all for this claim. All scare mongering! In some way i guess it's extortion which i'm pretty sure is illegal?...

    I shall carry on ignoring and keep you posted if it carries on.
  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    flintlok wrote: »
    UPDATE** so i've now quickly received a letter in the post from PCM say that because my appeal was dismissed they require payment within X amount of days otherwise they will involve debt collectors and/or court action.

    Do i still ignore this?

    Thanks!

    I would reply stating you deny any debt exists. You disagree with the assessors verdict which has no basis in law. You require the case to be settled in court. You are open to further ADS.
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  • pvt
    pvt Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    edited 24 March 2015 at 7:40PM
    I would copy the adjudication to the DVLA. Their entitlement to obtain information from the DVLA depends on them following their AOS's COP.

    This is a clear example of where a PPC has not complied with the COP of its AOS, and the kangaroo court it operates as an independent appeal service has ignored that.

    The response is absolutely laughable.
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  • eddy1
    eddy1 Posts: 136 Forumite
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    so the IAS are saying that you can put a sign up saying
    DONT PARK ERE: OR YOU GIVE ME 100 QUID
    which, if it not for ATA's supplying them with examples, they would be putting up scrawled on a piece of cardboard with a crayon.
    I would report the company to the IPC, as they have a code of practice that they are duty bound to follow, which if not, they have a tarrif of penalties and warnings.
    also write to DVLA as suggested, stating that IAS are ignoring CoP's which are expected of all parking companies, when making "independent" adjudications on appeals.
    if you have the stomach for it, turn the heat back on them and the IAS
    good luck
    eddy
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 25 March 2015 at 9:25AM
    As eddy says, turn the hear up, right up. Write to all the motoring associations, Trading Standards, Chamber of Commerce, Tourist Office, local papers, radio stations etc.

    What is the point of a code of practice if it is ok to ignore it? How are the "Independent" adjudicators, independent?

    One good thing that has come out of this is that it has made it very difficult for Red Cow affiliated PPCs to win at court against a well defended case, and more and more "offenders" are choosing to ignore because of this. .
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Paperbird
    Paperbird Posts: 301 Forumite
    The IPC have to have an enforceable code of practice for any of their members to have access to keeper details.
    If the IPC agree with the IAS that it is only a best practice guide the IPC needs to be reported to the DVLA.
    The .Gov website states " Those ATAs who fail to enforce their COP will lose their accreditation "
  • Coupon-mad
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    flintlok wrote: »
    UPDATE** so i've now quickly received a letter in the post from PCM say that because my appeal was dismissed they require payment within X amount of days otherwise they will involve debt collectors and/or court action.

    Do i still ignore this?

    Thanks!

    Obviously - you are going to get letters. Just don't ignore court papers.
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  • eddy1
    eddy1 Posts: 136 Forumite
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    hi
    this is what the IPC COP states


    Signs
    2.1 Where the basis of your parking charges is based in the law of contract that will usually be


    by way of the driver of a vehicle agreeing to contractual terms which are identified by signage in and around a controlled zone. It is therefore of fundamental importance that the signage meets the minimum standards under this Code as this underpins the validity of any such charge.
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    [FONT=Calibri,Bold]I would make a formal complaint to IPC, and copy both the IAS adjudication, and their COP to them, and inform them that this is going before DVLA


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  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    I was reading the OP and this jumped out at me ...
    no part of the sign which contains relevant text should be over 6’, or under 12”, from ground level.

    Are those over and under words the wrong way round? If not then a sign sited 30' up a pole would be compliant, but one site 8' up would not.
  • flintlok
    flintlok Posts: 9 Forumite
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    *UPDATE*

    So I have now received a letter from a debt collection company requesting payment for a now higher bill of £160. If I don't then the letter states they will advise "their client" to take court action.

    Again I am assuming to just ignore this?

    Thanks in advance.

    Oh and Bod in regards to your question I read it as any text that is important on the sign must be lower than 6 feet from the ground and above 12 inches from the ground. They just worded it in a confusing way.
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