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Cancellation of a Blue Badge

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  • benniebert
    benniebert Posts: 666 Forumite
    edited 18 March 2015 at 9:15PM
    Parva wrote: »
    If she has no mobility component of PIP then I fail to see why she would get the blue badge returned but this begs another question.... If she has been awarded zero mobility component and she accepted this, why is she wanting the blue badge returned?

    I'm not having a pop btw, just a little confused. When I first applied for my blue badge back at the beginning of 2012 I hadn't at that point been awarded DLA and was required to attend an assessment with my city council. I 'passed' the test and got my badge prior to being awarded DLA (which I also got). I had to renew my blue badge December 2014 and just the DLA entitlement alone was enough this time.

    I have no idea whether local councils have tests outside of DLA / PIP entitlement nowadays sadly so I really don't know. :(

    That is correct, she has been told by the DWP that she doesn't have any mobility problems. However that doesn't mean to say that she actually has no problems. What the DWP has said bears no comparison to her actual condition. Hence why previously she had HRM of DLA.
    I presume then that she will not have her badge returned until/if she passes the LA test. Which will then confuse the issue that if she has it returned that way, how does that sit with the DWP's decision that she doesn't have any mobility issues?
    Weird if I say so myself.


    Maybe the answer is to apply direct to the LA and if she does get it, to send a copy of it together with the PIP decision letter to the DWP asking if they could comment on the apparent confusion - is she or isn't she disabled with severe mobility issues.
  • Parva
    Parva Posts: 1,104 Forumite
    benniebert wrote: »
    That is correct, she has been told by the DWP that she doesn't have any mobility problems. However that doesn't mean to say that she actually has no problems. What the DWP has said bears no comparison to her actual condition. Hence why previously she had HRM of DLA.
    I presume then that she will not have her badge returned until/if she passes the LA test. Which will then confuse the issue that if she has it returned that way, how does that sit with the DWP's decision that she doesn't have any mobility issues?
    Weird if I say so myself.


    Maybe the answer is to apply direct to the LA and if she does get it, to send a copy of it together with the PIP decision letter to the DWP asking if they could comment on the apparent confusion - is she or isn't she disabled with severe mobility issues.

    Apply to what you want Andy, it's clear that all you want to do is stir up s**tstorms and p*** as many people off as possible. Good luck with that.
  • dori2o
    dori2o Posts: 8,150 Forumite
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    benniebert wrote: »
    That is correct, she has been told by the DWP that she doesn't have any mobility problems. However that doesn't mean to say that she actually has no problems. What the DWP has said bears no comparison to her actual condition. Hence why previously she had HRM of DLA.
    I presume then that she will not have her badge returned until/if she passes the LA test. Which will then confuse the issue that if she has it returned that way, how does that sit with the DWP's decision that she doesn't have any mobility issues?
    Weird if I say so myself.


    Maybe the answer is to apply direct to the LA and if she does get it, to send a copy of it together with the PIP decision letter to the DWP asking if they could comment on the apparent confusion - is she or isn't she disabled with severe mobility issues.
    you've changed your tune somewhat, what happened to the suggestion that you are only disabled if the dwp says you are argument? or does that argument only apply to everyone but yourself and your close friends.

    on the other hand it could be what parva has suggested, your a bullsh@tter who merely posts on these boards to cause trouble, hence why you've had to set up so many alter egos as each and every one eventually gets banned.
    No lies involved. The government has set criteria/descriptors for society to determine who is or not sufficiently disabled enough to be given that 'badge'.


    I have an ingrowing toenail which is painful - but by anybody's reasonable view I cannot be disabled - I agree I don't believe that I am either - but it is a disability. So yes there are degrees of disability, but not everybody that has these disabilities should be treated as being disabled. Otherwise where do you stop? We could end up with the majority of this country being thought of as disabled.
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  • mkcj
    mkcj Posts: 92 Forumite
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    "She contacted the county council and they told her that she must return the current badge for cancellation as she is no longer entitled to it under the automatic rules. Consequently she returned it last week".




    Suggest your friends shows page 9 of the following document to the Council:-


    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/192216/pip-blue-badge-scheme.pdf




    "If I used to qualify for the higher rate mobility component of DLA but don’t qualify for PIP, will I lose my Blue Badge?
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]If you don’t qualify for PIP following reassessment, you will be able to keep your existing Blue Badge until it expires. If at that point you do not have an appropriate PIP award, you will be able to apply to your local authority to see if you qualify for a badge under any of the other criteria. "


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  • benniebert
    benniebert Posts: 666 Forumite
    mkcj wrote: »
    "She contacted the county council and they told her that she must return the current badge for cancellation as she is no longer entitled to it under the automatic rules. Consequently she returned it last week".




    Suggest your friends shows page 9 of the following document to the Council:-


    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/192216/pip-blue-badge-scheme.pdf




    "If I used to qualify for the higher rate mobility component of DLA but don’t qualify for PIP, will I lose my Blue Badge?
    [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]If you don’t qualify for PIP following reassessment, you will be able to keep your existing Blue Badge until it expires. If at that point you do not have an appropriate PIP award, you will be able to apply to your local authority to see if you qualify for a badge under any of the other criteria. "


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    Thanks. Why do people who should know the law and rules backward give poor and misleading information?


    Still with what the booklet says, she should have retained her badge - PIP or not, until it runs out in 2017.


    I think a letter of complaint needs to be sent to the County Council with a demand that they re-issue the badge without any need to pass their own test. Having had the right award of DLA when the badge was issued seems to mean that even as the award has been taken off her she can still have the badge.
  • mkcj
    mkcj Posts: 92 Forumite
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    edited 3 April 2015 at 2:09PM
    Just checking that your friend is in England as this document only applies to England.


    Sometimes just a pleasant ask can be better than a complaint and demand though.
  • benniebert
    benniebert Posts: 666 Forumite
    mkcj wrote: »
    Just checking that your friend is in England as this document only applies to England.


    Sometimes just a pleasant ask can be better than a complaint and demand though.



    Yes, in Somerset
  • missile
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    Wonder why your friend contacted the council?
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  • benniebert
    benniebert Posts: 666 Forumite
    missile wrote: »
    Wonder why your friend contacted the council?



    Quite simple. She was told by the DWP that she was no longer entitled to any Mobility element of PIP. Previously she had HRM with her DLA which gave her the right to a Blue Badge.


    Obviously not wanting to do the wrong thing and not having a benefit that would back up an automatic right anymore to a Blue Badge, she contacted the County Council for advice.
  • missile
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    I hope she will learn from her mistake ........
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