If there was compulsory training for cyclists, would that put you off cycling?

brat

Tilt wrote: »

I think we have been through this umpteen times before. And seeing as you apparently are a police officer, I would of thought you would have clocked it by now. [50% - getting better!:D]

I have, on many many occasions, made it perfectly clear that I have no "anti-cycling bias". I am only "biased" (or critical) against irresponsible and reckless cyclists, the ones that "jump red lights and ride dangerously on the wrong side of the road" and the ones that ignore lights, barriers AND a police officer at a level crossing!

You are what you do Tilt, not what you think you do.

If you don't understand that the responses shown in #166 and #172 along with many other of your posts display anti cycling bias, then you don't understand yourself.

Why did you even bother coming into this thread, other than to pack in a little more anti cycling vitriol? it was doing just fine until you dragged your broken soap box back in.

modsandmockers

O my gollygosh, there’s enough material here to keep us all going for months…

"Mad Mocs would have the train stopping for the cyclists" - maybe I should have been involved at the planning stage!

"These guys are riding on closed roads with a police escort" - really? - so who would have been held responsible if there had been a crash?

"We're very, very stupid and dangerous when we get totally single-minded about achieving something" - that’s why driverless vehicles are such a good idea.

"I've got an abscess. Once the amoxicyllin kicks in I'm sure I'll be back to MSE standards of abuse! For now I just don't have the oomph" - I hope you will soon be better - think of yourself as offering an outlet for people who might otherwise be tempted to cause some kind of real damage.

"It's similar to what we refer to as 'red mist' in Roadcraft, defined as 'A mental and physiological state which drivers experience when they are so determined to achieve some non-driving objective (such as pursuing a vehicle in front), that they are no longer capable of assessing driving risks realistically'" - it happens when headcam-wearing cyclists chase after a clear shot of a motor vehicle’s registration details.

brat

Oops, someone's left the gate unlocked...:(

RichardD1970

Tilt wrote: »

I think we have been through this umpteen times before. And seeing as you apparently are a police officer, I would of thought you would have clocked it by now.

I have, on many many occasions, made it perfectly clear that I have no "anti-cycling bias". I am only "biased" (or critical) against irresponsible and reckless cyclists, the ones that "jump red lights and ride dangerously on the wrong side of the road" and the ones that ignore lights, barriers AND a police officer at a level crossing!

You keep protesting this, yet the evidence seems to suggest otherwise.

What was the purpose of posting the video you did, if not to, again, illustrate that cyclists (even professional ones) fit into your perceived stereotype?

Norman_Castle

Marco_Panettone wrote: »

If you knew anything about pro cycling (or even watched the race!) then you'd realise there's no need to change anything - there's a long-standing convention not to attack in this sort of situation. The bunch that crossed before the barriers sat up and waited for the delayed riders.


Using professional sporting incidents to attack people using bikes for transport is pretty rich. Are you driving to the shops in flame-proof overalls and helmet?

I don't claim to know anything about pro cycling. It was just a suggestion.

Feel free to show me where i've attacked anyone using bikes for transport or any other purpose.

Norman_Castle

Tilt wrote: »

I have the up most respect for responsible cyclists... those who ride in compliance with the rules of the road that is. But yes, I don't like irresponsible and reckless cyclists just like I don't like the equivalent drivers.

That clear enough?

Its clear you have an apparently unrecognised anti cycling bias in your judgement of responsible cycling.

Tilt

brat wrote: »

You are what you do Tilt, not what you think you do.

If you don't understand that the responses shown in #166 and #172 along with many other of your posts display anti cycling bias, then you don't understand yourself.

Why did you even bother coming into this thread, other than to pack in a little more anti cycling vitriol? it was doing just fine until you dragged your broken soap box back in.

Just to demonstrate that despite your beliefs, that cyclists are not totally the blameless group that you proportionate them to be. It appears (from this very example) that even the professional cyclist chooses at will to flout the law and put themselves in danger when it suits because they generally get away with it. Only when there is an actual incident do they become the attention of the police it seems.

You simply come back at me because you don't like the truth and woe betide anyone criticising cyclists in this forum.

But then again... you still don't get it. I only criticise the irresponsible ones who deserve criticism.

Tilt

RichardD1970 wrote: »

You keep protesting this, yet the evidence seems to suggest otherwise.

What was the purpose of posting the video you did, if not to, again, illustrate that cyclists (even professional ones) fit into your perceived stereotype?

The title of the thread should give you a clue. Obviously these cyclists need training on how to negotiate a level crossing and how to understand the directions of a police officer.

Tilt

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Its clear you have an apparently unrecognised anti cycling bias in your judgement of responsible cycling.

Then sir there is no hope in continuing the discussion with you as there is no point in arguing with a closed mind. Yours is closed to anything other than non-criticism of cyclists it seems.

Norman_Castle

Tilt wrote: »

Then sir there is no hope in continuing the discussion with you as there is no point in arguing with a closed mind. Yours is closed to anything other than non-criticism of cyclists it seems.

I'm happy to critisise and accept others critisism of cyclists who are at fault.
You are just happy to critise cyclists.