If there was compulsory training for cyclists, would that put you off cycling?

wealdroam

Tilt wrote: »

Even "professional" cyclists need re-TRAINing it seems!

http://www.evadeaza.ro/video-blog/train-interfeers-with-bike-race-almost-a-disaster

Mad Mocs would have the train stopping for the cyclists.

brat

Tilt wrote: »

Even "professional" cyclists need re-TRAINing it seems!

http://www.evadeaza.ro/video-blog/train-interfeers-with-bike-race-almost-a-disaster

It's a 'red mist' moment.

Tilt

At least a dozen of them blatantly ignored the motorbike police officer's signal to stop! These guys above the law then!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/32284180

Norman_Castle

It needs a rule change. If part of a group is delayed those that cross should be slowed to allow the following group to catch up. Then there is no incentive to cross the tracks dangerously.

Tilt

Norman_Castle wrote: »

It needs a rule change. If part of a group is delayed those that cross should be slowed to allow the following group to catch up. Then there is no [STRIKE]incentive[/STRIKE] excuse to cross the tracks dangerously.

Fixed that for you.

The police officer signalled the riders to stop and they ignored him.... especially the last one. Being professional riders one would expect them to know the rules. Gives "serious cyclists" a bad name. Oh... hang on a minute... :think:

Rotor

Tilt wrote: »

At least a dozen of them blatantly ignored the motorbike police officer's signal to stop! These guys above the law then!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/32284180

I imagine that could be quite a difficult prosecution. These guys are riding on closed roads with a police escort. They will have jumped literally dozens of red lights, ridden dangerously on the wrong side, etc etc etc, can't prosecute for all of those

Norman_Castle

Tilt wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

The police officer signalled the riders to stop and they ignored him.... especially the last one. Being professional riders one would expect them to know the rules. Gives "serious cyclists" a bad name. Oh... hang on a minute...these cyclists have done something wrong. I'm going to bleed this dry because I really don't like cyclists :think:

Fixed that for you.

kwmlondon

This goes way beyond just the behaviour of a few people on bicycles, it's down to our risk as human beings. Once you've started making decisions in your mind you'll discount any risk against it. Even pilots do it. This is one of the worst plane crashes in history when a pilot decided to take off without clearance because he was desperate to keep to the schedule:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster#Probable_cause

He weighed up the risk of the deaths of everyone on-board against the need to get the allocated slot for the plane and made one of the worst decisions in aviation history and as a result procedures changed for all aeroplanes and pilots.

So, against this deadly human characteristic a group of cyclists hell-bent on winning would not even blink at the prospect of risking their own lives, it's what human beings do. We're very, very stupid and dangerous when we get totally single-minded about achieving something.

It's why drivers run red lights just to get through the junction, despite the risk of being hit by a lorry. It's stupid behaviour but our ability to get risks right goes haywire all too easily.

kwmlondon

I apologise for not ranting on in a pro-cyclist or anti-cyclist way - I understand that the normal way of posting on MSE is to get aggressive towards people who have a different point of view but I'm afraid I'm not in the mood to do that today. Sorry.

Norman_Castle

kwmlondon wrote: »

I apologise for not ranting on in a pro-cyclist or anti-cyclist way - I understand that the normal way of posting on MSE is to get aggressive towards people who have a different point of view but I'm afraid I'm not in the mood to do that today. Sorry.

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