The numbers game..

harveybobbles

I remember years ago a BMW 520i badge meant it had a 2.0 engine. A 528i had a 2.8 engine. Similarly a Merc C220 had a 2.2 engine and a C250 had a 2.5 engine.

Why is then that a BMW 123d doesnt have a 2.3d engine and a Merc C250 is actually a 1.8...?

Could do on.. A new 528i has a 3.0.
A 325d has a 3.0...

bigjl

Badge snobbery I suspect.

motorguy

harveybobbles wrote: »

I remember years ago a BMW 520i badge meant it had a 2.0 engine. A 528i had a 2.8 engine. Similarly a Merc C220 had a 2.2 engine and a C250 had a 2.5 engine.

Why is then that a BMW 123d doesnt have a 2.3d engine and a Merc C250 is actually a 1.8...?

Could do on.. A new 528i has a 3.0.
A 325d has a 3.0...

The new 528i is actually a 2.0 litre.

Its not a new thing - the 1999 520i was actually a 2.2 litre for example.

It is what it is - just a way of diffentiating models of differing power outputs.

SailorSam

I wondered if they'd changed the badge just so they could charge more.
My car isn't just a Reliant Robin, it's the Reliant Robin Turbo.

motorguy

SailorSam wrote: »

I wondered if they'd changed the badge just so they could charge more.
My car isn't just a Reliant Robin, it's the Reliant Robin Turbo.

In some cases quite the contrary.

The 1998 520i 2.0 was replaced by the 2.2i in 1999, which had the same power output as the previous 523i, which meant you were getting 523i power for 520i money. The 523i engine became a 2.5 and the model became a 525i.

The latest X5 2.0 Diesel has more power than the original X5 3.0D, but the 2.0D variant would still be seen as the entry level car, below the current 3.0D

The moniker just really places the car at a point in the range.

Iceweasel

It's all to do with the ECU settings.

The BMW 316d, 318d, and 320d all have exactly the same 2.0 litre engine - the N47.

The power output is decided by how the ECU is set up.

motorguy

Iceweasel wrote: »

It's all to do with the ECU settings.

The BMW 316d, 318d, and 320d all have exactly the same 2.0 litre engine - the N47.

The power output is decided by how the ECU is set up.

There are more changes to those engines between models than just the ECU settings.

force_ten

harveybobbles wrote: »

I remember years ago a BMW 520i badge meant it had a 2.0 engine. A 528i had a 2.8 engine. Similarly a Merc C220 had a 2.2 engine and a C250 had a 2.5 engine.

Why is then that a BMW 123d doesnt have a 2.3d engine and a Merc C250 is actually a 1.8...?

Could do on.. A new 528i has a 3.0.
A 325d has a 3.0...

dont even try and work out what the Germans were thinking when the badged the BMW range think they must have just returned from oktoberfest and all had to many :beer:

best thing BMW did was offer de badged cars as it saves confusion

Iceweasel

motorguy wrote: »

There are more changes to those engines between models than just the ECU settings.

I'm aware of that motorguy - but the point is the engine size is the same.

There would be a whole page of differences right enough.

motorguy

Iceweasel wrote: »

I'm aware of that motorguy - but the point is the engine size is the same.

There would be a whole page of differences right enough.

Your original post implied it was only ECU.

Iceweasel

motorguy wrote: »

Your original post implied it was only ECU.

Of course you are right I should have 'partly' down to the ECU settings being different.