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Fault missed at MoT

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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    The test for a bush is whether it has "excessive movement". That is purely the tester's opinion.
    http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000409.htm

    If the mechanic suggested it should have been an advisory, then his opinion is that it did not have "excessive" movement, because that would have been a fail. Just that it was close. And, of course, that is his opinion. A guideline figure is given, but it's usually impossible to measure objectively.

    You could have appealed the MOT but, now that the bush's been replaced on, you cannot.
    Since you've had the fault fixed, you cannot now take it back to the vendor, because their first legal recourse is to remedy the issue. In addition, your SOGA rights are tempered by reasonable expectations given the age/price/general condition of used goods. Is there a reasonable expectation that there will be age-related wear in a £450 car? Umm, just a bit.

    Brakes "rattling" are not a fail. Only brake efficiency is a fail.
  • Westmead_Fan
    Westmead_Fan Posts: 230 Forumite
    was the mechanic who worked on your car an actual mot tester or a glorified fitter who thinks he knows what hes on about.

    rear subframe front bush's worn need to have excessive movement like if their virtually falling out
  • mrmot
    mrmot Posts: 192 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    Was it sold by a used car dealer?
    If they did the MOT, then it probably never even got up onto the ramps. As is pretty much the case with any used car dealer, with ANY car of ANY age.

    Complete load of rubbish, don't judge the integrity of people based on your own standards.

    If you wanted a vehicle condition report, why not pay for an inspection, rather than a test whose standard is one level above scrap.
  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    Well if the OP bothers to come back...
    My garage man said ''drive it as its safe but needs to be done in next few months and will be £150 - £200''

    Of course he will.. He runs a business.

    Edit, I'd love to know where to get these low mileage, one owner, clean cars for £450..
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    OP

    Your friendly garage who worked on the brakes must have done some kind of test to see they worked including in heavy breaking conditions. If so how come they did not notice this noise with the bushes if it was so bad that it made a noise?

    As has been said a cheap car will most likely have such problems and you should not rely on an MOT to say if a car is roadworthy the day you buy it.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • salubrious
    salubrious Posts: 210 Forumite
    My garage man said ''drive it as its safe but needs to be done in next few months and will be £150 - £200'' BUT he said that should have been picked up at MoT as an advisory (minimum) and really should have been fixed before I bought it.

    So he's saying the car is safe for now and the job won't need doing for a few months - Then it was right to pass the mot.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Your friendly garage who worked on the brakes must have done some kind of test to see they worked including in heavy breaking conditions.
    No, they won't.
  • burlington6
    burlington6 Posts: 2,111 Forumite
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    So your friend has told you it's still ok to drive but you think it should have been fixed by the seller.....get real

    You cant buy a decent mountain bike for £500 nowadays
  • Mr_Toad
    Mr_Toad Posts: 2,462 Forumite
    Of course it's also possible that the bushes were fine, or as fine as they could be, and your son has been driving it like he stole it and done nothing but heavy breaking which has pushed the bushes over the edge!

    There's nothing like a proper stress test for finding faults.
    One by one the penguins are slowly stealing my sanity.
  • ...I'm not sure the sellers fully knew the problem so I'm aiming for the MoT garage to kick, shout and ask for some cash towards it as they missed it. Thoughts?

    Why are you targeting the MOT station and making an assumption the sellers knew nothing? Are you thinking they might be an easy target?
    You have entered into a contract with the seller and they have responsibilities under the sale of goods act. I don't know how the vehicle was described in the sale offer but road-worthiness and fit for purpose might well apply here; Regardless of the value of the car.
    Even if bought from a private seller you have entered a contract so have rights, even if they are at the really thin end of that wedge in still needing to be only "as described".
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