Economy 10 HELP!

Vicleft

Thanks for the link molerat - i had already taken a look at this but to be honest, I'm no plumber so it didn't make an awful lot of sense.

Vicleft

E.ON_Company_Representative:_Helena wrote: »

Good morning Vicleft

I can't see if you mentioned if the bills were charged to actual or estimated meter reads?

Thanks for your response Helena - they were actual meter reads with the latest one taken by an E.ON representative who came to the door.

You say that within the 10 hours of cheaper electricity there are "some" hours where all electricity is at the cheaper rate. Are you saying that for some of the 10 hours only heating/water is cheaper? If this is the case, how do I know which of these hours is which?

Thanks again

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Your electric meter should show when the different rates are active by indicating in some way. The Ampy meter defaults to show the active rate in progress when you view the meter, others will have a blinking curser under the active rate or scroll round and the active reading will blink.
Older analogue timerswitches have a 24 hr circular timer switch which control the switchover times. These old things are frequently not set correctly and the cheap rates can be anywhere in the 24 hrs

Richie-from-the-Boro

Vicleft wrote: »

The kWh are split as follows;

7494 Peak
3261 Off Peak

We are in the East Midlands

Apologies for slow reply - i thought i had set the site up to e-mail me if someone responded so when I had no e-mails I presumed there were no replies. Newbie error!

Thanks for the continued assistance.

- assuming the figure above is core / expensive split
- 78.71% of your costs are at the cheap rate
- Cardew said "in an all electric CH house 10,755kWh is commendably low consumption"
- Richie says "in an all electric CH house 78.71% at core rate is an exemplary low consumption"
- I've never known [even with a supplimentary woodie] a figure that low a 'wet electric' Amptec
- with a 70/30% split in favour of core rate you may save by going E7 - I'd leave well alone

E.ON_Company_Representative:_Helena

Vicleft wrote: »

Thanks for your response Helena - they were actual meter reads with the latest one taken by an E.ON representative who came to the door.

You say that within the 10 hours of cheaper electricity there are "some" hours where all electricity is at the cheaper rate. Are you saying that for some of the 10 hours only heating/water is cheaper? If this is the case, how do I know which of these hours is which?

Thanks again

Morning Vicleft,

It appears you have a two rate Economy 10 meter, is that correct? If it is, then all usage used during off peak will be charged at the lower rate.

It's normally the three rate meters where some of the time is for all usage and some is for heating/hot water only.

I would need to check the account to be absolutely sure though.

Helena

Scrounger

E.ON_Company_Representative:_Helena wrote: »

It appears you have a two rate Economy 10 meter? if so then all usage used during off peak will be charged at the lower rate.

It's normally the three rate meters where some of the time is for all usage and some is for heating/hot water only.

Helena

That is very useful information because it means that a E10 two-rate meter is preferable to the (usual) three-rate meter as you have the full 10 off-peak hours at you disposal (and not just for heating and immersion). This means you could run your washing machine and other appliances in the afternoon or early evening on cheap rate - so long as you timed it right.

The only bugbear is the switching times which are controlled remotely by radio tele-switch and AFAIK these times can vary, even from day to day. One solution would be to install one (or more) FCU with neon indicators on your storage heaters and that way you would know when the cheap rate was on (as the neon would glow):
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Fused Connection Units with Neon

When the neon glows: switch on the washer, put your dinner in the oven, boil the kettle for a cup of tea, get the vacuuming done, then get ironing ... etc etc

That's what I would do :rotfl:

Scrounger

Benhoss

We are with Eon economy 10 & are currently looking at switching to economy 7 to save money but have been baffled by comparison websites , Eon today quoted £64 to change meters. But am still in quantry trying to compare to see if this would be the right move or not. We are all electric storage heaters & Emerson on the newer 2 period meter. We used a total of 15,867kwh last year, of which 5,703 were day rate @ 16.9p/kWh & 10,164kwh were night rate @ 8.6p/kWh with standing charge of 16.4p/day. Total of £1911.00 for the year. Would appreciate any advise please, going round in circles at the moment !! Lol. Many thanks. P.s we have the new Dimplex Quantum storage heaters fitted earlier this year which they say are more efficient & only need 7 hours , so they say that is !!

Cardew

Benhoss wrote: »

We are with Eon economy 10 & are currently looking at switching to economy 7 to save money but have been baffled by comparison websites , Eon today quoted £64 to change meters. But am still in quantry trying to compare to see if this would be the right move or not. We are all electric storage heaters & Emerson on the newer 2 period meter. We used a total of 15,867kwh last year, of which 5,703 were day rate @ 16.9p/kWh & 10,164kwh were night rate @ 8.6p/kWh with standing charge of 16.4p/day. Total of £1911.00 for the year. Would appreciate any advise please, going round in circles at the moment !! Lol. Many thanks. P.s we have the new Dimplex Quantum storage heaters fitted earlier this year which they say are more efficient & only need 7 hours , so they say that is !!

The Dimplex heater you have are very good, but like any electrical heater are 100% efficient. However they may retain heat better than the older storage heaters.


At £1911 you are paying way more than necessary.


For my area(Midlands) using your figures there are a dozen Economy 7 tariff costing between £1,315 and £1,350.


Even on a single rate tariff(i.e. 24/7 at the same rate) it would cost £1,628 with SSE - 9.734p/kWh and 23.02p a day standing charge.

lstar337

Vicleft wrote: »

The kWh are split as follows;

7494 Peak
3261 Off Peak

That implies you are using much more peak rate than off-peak.

Not a good situation to be in.

Cardew

lstar337 wrote: »

That implies you are using much more peak rate than off-peak.

Not a good situation to be in.

Vicleft posted that 8 months ago and apparently hasn't returned to MSE