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Nitrogen tyre fill, hidden charges.

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  • molerat
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    At work we always used 100% nitrogen in the tyres .........but the 2 tyres were inflated to 350 psi carrying 15 tons hitting the ground at 150 mph :D

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  • arcon5
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    What did they say when you refused to pay or queried it then?
  • DoaM
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    Joe_Horner wrote: »
    But a fixed volume of gas will raise its pressure on heating by the same amount, regardless of what gas it is, so the pressure change in a nitrogen filled tyre as it heats up will be the same as one filled with (dry) air, or oxygen, or hydrogen.

    I'm not sure that's technically true, as different materials have differing thermal coefficients of expansion. In reality though, the temperature variation experienced by an automotive tyre on a family vehicle would make any coefficient differences negligible. As such promoting nitrogen-filled tyres is just automotive snake oil. :)
  • Bollotom wrote: »
    ...And if your passengers start speaking in a weird way, you have a leak :cool:

    That's helium that does that.
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  • That's helium that does that.



    I believe there is an urban myth that breathing nitrogen will make your voice deeper.

    Theoretically I think a heavier-than-air gas might make your voice get deeper, but you could end up with your lungs half full of it. Nitrogen, however, is marginally lighter than air (although heavier than pure oxygen).

    Might have to stand on your head after trying it if you decide to have a go with a heavier-than-air gas.
  • forgotmyname
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    Yes, fill up with helium instead, it will reduce the cars unsprung weight and improve the handling as well as making the car lighter and more fuel efficient.

    Win win all around. shhh. dont tell KF they will charge you £20 to fill your tyres with helium.
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  • adouglasmhor
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    I believe there is an urban myth that breathing nitrogen will make your voice deeper.

    Theoretically I think a heavier-than-air gas might make your voice get deeper, but you could end up with your lungs half full of it. Nitrogen, however, is marginally lighter than air (although heavier than pure oxygen).

    Might have to stand on your head after trying it if you decide to have a go with a heavier-than-air gas.

    I wouldn't TBH
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  • londonTiger
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    lol, nitrogen probably offsets the weight put on by the valve stem cap
  • Aretnap
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    Joe_Horner wrote: »
    But a fixed volume of gas will raise its pressure on heating by the same amount, regardless of what gas it is, so the pressure change in a nitrogen filled tyre as it heats up will be the same as one filled with (dry) air, or oxygen, or hydrogen.
    Pedantically that's only strictly true of ideal gases, of which there are none. Practically of course oxygen and nitrogen do behave pretty much like ideal gases at normal-ish temperatures and pressures, so any differences in the pressure change as they heat up will be negligible for most purposes.
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