Charge Notice from Ace Security Services

YYZ416

Hi All,

I have read the Newbies Private Parking Ticket sticky and all 6 of the posts on Ace Security Services but the advice is not 100% clear/consistent to me.

My situation:
- I parked outside a friend's flat while visiting them.
- There was a sign but I didn't notice that you needed to get a permit and my friend also forgot to mention it, so I didn't have one. (After the fact, there is also no instructions on where you get a permit from)
- I got a Charge Notice for £130 (or £65 if you pay in 14 days) on my windscreen from Ace Security Services (trading name of Pace Recovery and Storage Ltd)
- On the back of the notice, there are instructions on how to appeal. In particular, if you appeal within 14 days, the charge stays at £65.

From my research and the various posts, I know that Ace is not a member of the BPA or IPC. Therefore, it cannot get my details legally from the DVLA.

Most of the previous posts on Ace are from 2013 and the general consensus is to ignore the Notice left on my windscreen. However, I noticed that a number of the regular forum contributors have a footer that says "NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!" or "Ticket in a private car park in England/Wales?... DON'T PAY IT BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT...........Do NOT read older advice to ignore"

Therefore, my question is: Should I just ignore the Charge Notice that was left on my windscreen and wait for a NTK (if any) to come? (Hopefully, unlikely if they can't get my address) If not, what should I do?

Also, if a NTK does come, I will have missed the early payment discount, so will owe £130 vs £65 (I am assuming that all disputes will fail as there is no independent appeals process for a non trade member PPC)?

BTW - I have another parking permit displayed - will they use this to try and track me down. The notice says they took a photo!

Thanks in advance for your help. Much appreciated!

waamo

This shower crop up rarely. They are not members of an ATA so should not be able to obtain any details from the DVLA. So far I have not heard that they have managed to.

Ignore them. If they write to the RK come back and tell us but I suspect it will go no further.

enfield_freddy

they are a shower of chancing !!!!!!s , no better than me leaving a ticket on your car saying "pay me" and a bank number .


the £130 figure is illegal


there will be no NTO , as they can,t get one ,


can you give us there full name and trading address , also full details of how to pay them , as this can be followed up and stopped


debit card machine suppliers do not like there machines being used for fraud.

Fruitcake

As above, wait for the NTK (which may never arrive) before you do anything else. This is one of the rare occasions where it is OK to ignore a PCN. Well done on reading up first. It really helps the regulars here when someone does their homework before asking questions. :T

enfield_freddy

the set of muppets http://www.acesecurities.co.uk/#!about2/c4nz


ready for a joke


"there will always be those who ignore the Charge Notices, or believe that they are insubstantial. These people may offend once, but the inconvenience of receiving a Charge Notice, or having their vehicle repositioned, is usually enough of a deterrent that they do not do so again.

Ace Security Services is not a member of the BPA. However, this does not prevent us from issuing Charge Notices that are legally enforceable. Should you require more information regarding this, or the legality of parking control schemes, please feel free to contact us.


move your car? illegal , issue a charge notice , how can they , they are not an ATA member


please get back to us , if those muppets do get your details via another company


as they are clearly breaking the law ,

Redx

mmmm

Ace Security Services

good choice of words there

YYZ416

Thank you all for your advice! Much appreciated.

Yes, it is the guys mentioned in the posts above.

Here are their full details:

Ace security services is a trading name of Pace Recovery & Storage Ltd.
Registered in England No. 3280414
Registered address
792 Wickham Road
Croydon
CR0 8EA

They take payment on the following website:


acepay (dot) co (dot) uk

They are cheeky enough to charge you a further £3 processing fee (on top of your £130) for paying by credit or DEBIT card!!!! Unbelievable!

The Company is run by an ex-policeman!
(Can't send the link as I am a Newbie. So see link sent by Folkiedave on 22-10-2013 at 10:39 AM)

I will follow the advice given and wait for a NTK, which hopefully will never arrive. Fingers crossed!

Thanks again.

enfield_freddy

yes , if a NTK arrives , we would like to know how they got it , as they (!!!) and whoever got it are in trouble,


continue to park as per normal , because there signage means nothing

DoaM

Don't some PPCs use a clearing house who do have ATA AOS status so can access keeper details?

enfield_freddy

yes , but has the customer affected them ? if not , they have no right to the info ,

DoaM

enfield_freddy wrote: »

yes , but has the customer affected them ? if not , they have no right to the info ,

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean by "but has the customer affected them".