Newbie going to have fun with a Park Premier PCN

Ryan_Bryan

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n582x4elz40upif/PCN.jpg?dl=0

The_Deep

Have you forgotten the v.a.t. bomb?

If the PPC are claiming that the funny money they want is a contractually agreed charge, they should, if they have a turnover of £75,000, account for vat. Further reading here.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...7925&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3796&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5195437&page=4

soton_25

Hey Deep, thanks for the post. I will be honest and say I couldn't really put the effort in to find a form of words that was punchy enough for the VAT invoice request.


Do you have a stock form of words that you like? I ask only because the forum posts you link to don't really nail it in my humble view. I would love to get something more punchy together and get it out there for everyone to use.


Happy to work on it and then let everyone know how it went.

soton_25

In case you still have any interest... the latest missive from my Premier Park friends.


19th March 2015
Dear Mr,
Re: Parking Charge Notice XXXXXX
We write to acknowledge receipt of your letter appealing against the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to your vehicle at easyGym, Southampton.
We take note of your appeal and can advise that the above PCN was issued to your vehicle as you had no authority to park, stop or enter this location. Authorised entry to this location is only permitted for easyGym members when registering their vehicle registration.
There is ample and substantiat signage at this location upon entry to the location and at various points clearly stating 'PARKING FOR AUTHORISED EASYGYM MEMBERS ONLY WHILST THEY REMAIN IN SITE. MAXIMUM STAY 2 HOURS, No RETURN WTTHTN 1 HOUR. ALL VEHICLES MUST BE AUTHORISED BY REGISTERING ON ENTRY TO EASYGYM. NO EXCEPTIONS. VEHICLES MUST BE PARKED WTTHIN A MARKED BAY AND A VALID BLUE BADGE MUST ALSO BE FULLY ON DISPLAY lN THE WINDSCREEN AREA lN BLUE BADGE BAYS.' They also advise of the consequences of not adhering to these restrictions.
After reviewing our photographic evidence we have confirmed that your vehicle entered this area but there is no record of the vehicle registration being registered in full or in part at easyGym
We'are satisfied that on this occasion the above PCN was issued correctly and normally our decision would be to reject your appeal.
However on this occasion, we would like to give you the opportunity to submit further evidence of your gym membership before we make our flnal decision.
We require you to submit this evidence by 2nd April 2015. lf we do not receive any further correspondence from you by this date, your appealwill be decided on the evidence you originally submitted.
Yours sincerely
The Admin Team Premier Park Ltd

bod1467

Dear PPC,
Go swivel. You've had my appeal, so either accept it and cancel the PCN or reject it and give me my POPLA code (where I'll win my appeal and cost you another £27). Your procrastination is yet another breach of your ATA's code of practice.

Time for another complaint to them methinks.

Yours,
YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE!

soton_25

Hilarious!

soton_25

My latest missive going in post later today


Appeals Department
Premier Park Ltd
PO Box 624
EX1 9JG
Dear Sirs
Re: PCN No.
I have received your letter dated ref PCN No. dated March 2015, acknowledging my appeal. Unfortunately your letter fails to respond to many of the key points raised in my letter of March 2015.
a). Other than an oblique reference to "photographic evidence" you provide no other evidence that the vehicle was parked at the premises claimed on the date and time referred to in your "Notice". Until such time as your provide this evidence, it cannot be presumed the vehicle was where you say it was.
b) The sum does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss, nor is it a core price term. You have not attempted to address the aspect of your pre-estimated loss and therefore I maintain it is a disguised penalty and not commercially justified.
c) You make reference to "ample and substantial" signage. I have photographic evidence that demonstrates that the signage is inadequate, therefore, as keeper I believe the signs you refer to were not seen, the wording is ambiguous and arguably illegible.
d) You provide no evidence that you have any proprietary interest in the land, even following my request to do so.
e) You fail to address my appeal point that your "Notice" fails to comply with POFA 2012 and therefore your request to the DVLA for keeper data is both not compliant with the BPA CoP and the statutory requirements.
f) I restate, there was no consideration, nor acceptance, flowing from both parties and any contract with myself, or the driver, is denied.
g) Finally and most importantly, no Notice to Driver was issued. Your "Notice" dated 17 Feb 2015, whilst an attempted Notice to Keeper, is not valid under POFA 2012 as it is issued outside of the timings required by statue. It is therefore unenforceable on the keeper. I will be complaining to both the BPA and DVLA on this point, unless you cancel the charge of uphold the appeal.
I warn you that I have now expended further time and effort replying to your last letter and my costs are mounting. I give you a further chance to accept the "Drop Hands" offer referred to my last letter. If you decide to proceed with your unwarranted threat, I will be put to further unnecessary expense and hours of time appealing of defending this matter. As such you will be liable for my costs.
Mindful of trying to mitigate your costs, I suggest you proceed to cancel or uphold the appeal, or if not, issue my POPLA code forthwith, I will send my letters of complaint, you will receive BPA sanction points and we will go to independent appeal at your cost of £27+ VAT.
Yours faithfully,

Hot_Bring

Bod's response was far better and concise ( and in my experience shows you don't take them seriously which your letter suggest you do ).

The_Deep

Personally. I prefer Bod's version. They have had their chance, you are sounding a bit desperate.

Ryan_Bryan

Like all scummy, scamming PPC's, the office muppets believe their pseudo-legal clap-trap will break your will. I'm with Bod and the others on this. Tell them to put up or shut up. Then you can gloat after beating them at POPLA.