Inconsidererate, aggressive, but not necessarily dangerous. Report?

OhhToria

I'm going to answer your original question, "Worth reporting this one?".

Yes. It's been a while since I've been on my racing bike because where I live, the pot holes are the size of dustbin lids and I got fed up of punctures... oh and idiot car drivers, whom, living in their metal tomb, feel nice, warm, comfy and safe, which for some, makes for interesting (idiotic driving).

Now, don't get me wrong - I'm a car driver first and foremost (over 100k miles per year), but I notice if I drive with someone else, especially if they don't ride a bike, that sometimes the lack of respect given to those on two wheels is incredibly disheartening. Again, coming from racing bikes, I totally get why you are further in the road - keeping away from drain covers etc and that's where I think the BMW driver got his attitude from, for the sheer lack of understanding that when you're on a skinny tired racing bike, you cannot be going close to the curb.

So, should you ride your bike closer to the curb? No, of course not. Should the BMW chill out a bit instead of showing his anger with his horn? Yes.

Send the evidence - it might not get very far, but he/she needs a few words spoken in to their ear when it comes to manners. Startling bikers with your horn just as you are passing, is not cool and serves no other purpose on that occasion than being a d**k!

modsandmockers

OhhToria wrote: »

I'm going to answer your original question, "Worth reporting this one?".

Yes. It's been a while since I've been on my racing bike because where I live, the pot holes are the size of dustbin lids and I got fed up of punctures... oh and idiot car drivers, whom, living in their metal tomb, feel nice, warm, comfy and safe, which for some, makes for interesting (idiotic driving).

Now, don't get me wrong - I'm a car driver first and foremost (over 100k miles per year), but I notice if I drive with someone else, especially if they don't ride a bike, that sometimes the lack of respect given to those on two wheels is incredibly disheartening. Again, coming from racing bikes, I totally get why you are further in the road - keeping away from drain covers etc and that's where I think the BMW driver got his attitude from, for the sheer lack of understanding that when you're on a skinny tired racing bike, you cannot be going close to the curb.

So, should you ride your bike closer to the curb? No, of course not. Should the BMW chill out a bit instead of showing his anger with his horn? Yes.

Send the evidence - it might not get very far, but he/she needs a few words spoken in to their ear when it comes to manners. Startling bikers with your horn just as you are passing, is not cool and serves no other purpose on that occasion than being a d**k!

If you are on a skinny-tired racing bike, then !!!!!! are you doing on the highway?

modsandmockers

modsandmockers wrote: »

Would that be the primary position, or the secondary?

brat wrote: »

If you mean what you've written is an example of 'bollox,' I wouldn't entirely agree with you.

Granted, it is pointless anecdote, but it gives us a little insight into what you do with your Sundays. It doesn't address any of the points I raised that you earlier described as bollox...

...but I understand it, and it has a smidgen of topical reference.

So don't put yourself down too much. :whistle:

To quote from one of your earlier posts - 'you haven't answered my question'...

brat

modsandmockers wrote: »

To quote from one of your earlier posts - 'you haven't answered my question'...

The question wasn't asked of me...

...and it was an extremely stupid question.

esuhl

modsandmockers wrote: »

If you are on a skinny-tired racing bike, then !!!!!! are you doing on the highway?

Ha ha ha -- I suppose cars with expensive Pirelli tyres shouldn't be allowed on the road, either?! :rotfl:

And !!!!!! are people buying sports cars with a maximum speed of over 70mph?! They shouldn't be allowed on the highway -- it's clear people have only bought them so they can break the law.

silverwhistle

esuhl wrote: »

Ha ha ha --

I've come to the conclusion that it is no use engaging with this utter, utter p*****r. Every post, whether factually incorrect or just nastily biaised, confirms it. I don't even think they are a classic troll; just a very misguided individual.

modsandmockers

esuhl wrote: »

Ha ha ha -- I suppose cars with expensive Pirelli tyres shouldn't be allowed on the road, either?! :rotfl:

And !!!!!! are people buying sports cars with a maximum speed of over 70mph?! They shouldn't be allowed on the highway -- it's clear people have only bought them so they can break the law.

Expensive Pirelli car tyres don't get punctures, and car drivers are required by law to obey the speed limits.

esuhl

modsandmockers wrote: »

Expensive Pirelli car tyres don't get punctures, and car drivers are required by law to obey the speed limits.

All pneumatic tyres can get punctures!!! Why should pneumatic tyres be banned from the road?!

The fact that car drivers are legally required to obey speed limits does nothing to stop the majority from speeding.

Norman_Castle

modsandmockers wrote: »

If you’re sitting comfortably, let me tell you a story…

Most Sunday mornings, I traverse my local 20mph zone on foot in order to catch an 0930 bus to meet the family, and there is a very popular bike ride which meets close to the bus stops also at 0930.

Today, I started early so that I could pause in order to watch the behaviour of the cyclists as they headed for the meet. I would estimate that only one in every 3 or 4 looked behind themselves at any point in the quarter-mile or so of their approach to the right turn which leads them to their destination. They come through in groups of 1,2 or 3, and their road positioning is completely random. On one occasion, a single cyclist moved to the right into the path of a group of 2 or 3, and caused the group to swerve onto the wrong side of the road - this caused much hilarity.

The highway is not a playground.

Today, the family meet was at the top of Campbell Park, Milton Keynes, and early in the walk there is a sheep-grid with ‘kissing’ gates. We were 4 adults, an eight-year-old on a bike, a five-year-old on a scooter, a two-year-old on foot and a baby in a sling. There were two buggies. Getting that lot through is complicated, but the mountain biker who came through at full speed did not appear to notice our presence.

That’s what I mean by ‘bollox’.

The cyclists sound relaxed. Regular cyclists are fully aware of the dangers. Clearly there was no incident involving other vehicles as you would have mentioned it. When cycling I can hear if there is a car behind me. If I need to look I will look.

I agree that some mountain bikers can be very careless in shared spaces.

modsandmockers

esuhl wrote: »

The fact that car drivers are legally required to obey speed limits does nothing to stop the majority from speeding.

That is yet another good reason for cyclists to keep out of their way