On changing your email address

Big_Graeme

Collabora wrote: »

But even though these have been free for years anyone selling domains had the option to make a charge for these, but now it means that the domain seller will be charged if these services are requested when a domain is registered, but the reseller could still offer these free if they are willing to swallow the cost

What costs? Who is charging the hosting/domain registrars? Who is checking what services they offer?

securityguy

Collabora wrote: »

Well they would have been informed by ICANN about these.
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Which only affects ICANN-controlled TLDs.

Collabora

Big_Graeme wrote: »

What costs? Who is charging the hosting/domain registrars? Who is checking what services they offer?

all domain registrants have to be accredited to ICANN and Nominet as these are the organisations that oversea domain TLD's. (.com etc. are ICANN and .uk are Nominet) and these have very strict rules that must be followed.

Personally i hate the processes as if you have a domain dispute, you have to go through one of their dispute agents and with ICANN this will set you back $1,400

Collabora

securityguy wrote: »

Which only affects ICANN-controlled TLDs.

no it also effects Nominet Controlled TLD's

Primrose

Thank you for all your responses, many of which are sadly over my head on the technical front. I was actually enquiring for somebody else so hope their old email address provider will have some kind of forwarding arrangement.

Big_Graeme

Collabora wrote: »

all domain registrants have to be accredited to ICANN and Nominet as these are the organisations that oversea domain TLD's. (.com etc. are ICANN and .uk are Nominet) and these have very strict rules that must be followed.

I'm aware of that but I can't find any information on either ICANN or Nominet introducing these charges and how they will then check which services the registrars are offering/charging for.

I can see a couple of white label services introducing a fee but nothing saying it's been forced on them which to be honest is always a good excuse/get out for adding a fee.

Also this is ONLY for privacy services and not for anything else, there is nothing I can find that affects DNS, Mail or Domain Forwarding. Therefore nothing stopping someone buying a domain and getting email forwarded to any address.

esuhl

Primrose wrote: »

Thank you for all your responses, many of which are sadly over my head on the technical front. I was actually enquiring for somebody else so hope their old email address provider will have some kind of forwarding arrangement.

In answer to your original question, no -- there's no way to automatically notify everyone of your new address, or have your old provider automatically forward emails to you, or show any kind of message to people who email you (as far as I know). When your access gets cut off, people sending email would either send the email successfully with no warning that you won't see it, or it'll be rejected and they'll see some kind of "invalid recipient" message.

To let people know of your new address, you could send a message to everyone in your address book. Of course, you'll also have to manually log in to any web sites/services/accounts that use your email address and change it to the new one.

If you use an email client (like Outlook or Thunderbird), you can set up multiple accounts, so can receive messages to both old and new email addresses (until the old one gets cut off).

If you use webmail, you can probably set up the new email account so that it also collects email from your old account (again, until it gets cut off).

To avoid having to change email addresses in future, you can use an independent email provider (like GMail or GMX, etc.) so you can keep your email address when you change ISP.

There's a small chance that one of these companies could go bust or stop providing free email -- if you want to mitigate against that, you can register a domain name (e.g. mysurname.co.uk). Then you can set it to forward emails to your free email provider (GMail, GMX, etc.). If you want to change from, say, GMail to GMX, you just change the settings on your domain. A .co.uk. domain costs about £2 to £3 a year.

Collabora

Big_Graeme wrote: »

I'm aware of that but I can't find any information on either ICANN or Nominet introducing these charges and how they will then check which services the registrars are offering/charging for.

they wont how it works is just like domain TLDs in that a registrant can chose what they want to offer.

a registrant will be given a price they will be charged for the service if it is used.

so lets take the privacy option as this is currently the only one chargeable at the moment.

the registrant is told they will be charged $3 for this per domain. this is not charged unless activated by whoever registers the domain, so if this option is not chosen then no one gets charged, if it is chose then the registrant will be charged the $3, just the same way they are charged the wholesale price for the domain, they then charge their customer for this service at whatever price they have decided to charge to make a profit or like some that are currently swallowing this cost and still give privacy free

esuhl

I think you're getting confused between a registrar and a registrant.

A registrar is a company that updates the register (e.g. 1&1, 123-reg, etc.).
A registrant is the person registering the domain (e.g. me!)

RobTang

Collabora wrote: »

all domain registrants have to be accredited to ICANN and Nominet as these are the organisations that oversea domain TLD's. (.com etc. are ICANN and .uk are Nominet) and these have very strict rules that must be followed.

VeriSign manages .com
ICANN is very very different to a registrar.


DNS management and email forwarding was ALWAYS charged by your registrar (not the domain name registry company), even if its considered "free" service it really paid for by your registration fee. All they are really doing is charging you more for itemising your bill.


However your are always free to use the many other DNS hosting providers many of which offer free tiers which are perfectly suitable for average personal domain name.