NICS Voluntary Redundancy Scheme

bingo_bango

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

I would have to disagree with that as I know a number of people who work in the Civil Service who have had their letters including figures on offer... my sister being one of them!!

In fairness to you, you came back with reasoned arguments here and we've cross posted, so I'll do the same.

I accept that there may be people who have received offers, but only those within the DVLANI scheme. The wider CS scheme won't launch for a couple of weeks as mentioned above and no letters of offer have issued to anyone outside DVLANI.

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

True.... I do.... I think they are in a lot of cases generally overpaid and not very efficient in what they do... Fair enough you can blame the system they work within but either way it never stops... look at the recent fiasco over St.Marys and Stranmillis...... Complete Joke....... Wasting public money training teachers who will end up working in call centres or have to move out of Northern Ireland to get a job.....

I'm not sure what a lack of jobs for teachers has to do with the CS? Politicians make the decisions as to funding for education. Those budgets dictate what schools, colleges etc can do year to year, and the reduction in the block grant has the main impact there.

As for St Marys / Stranmillis, that is all political posturing for the election. The mindset of NI people in power will never allow them to get rid of religious education, on either side.

saverbuyer

bingo_bango wrote: »

I'm well versed in their civil servant bashing ways

I like keyboard warriors to produce facts when they attack my role in public life and that of my colleagues.

As for the 'generous payout ' available, I'm well aware of what the likely terms will be. I find that cold comfort for colleagues who feel that voluntary exit is the way forward, because the terms are marginally better than voluntary redunancy which is a distinct possibility if they don't accept the terms of this forthcoming scheme.

Be interesting to see what their position is in 3 years time, because I know of changes coming very soon which will have a negative socio-economic impact on people just like warmhands, but hey, who needs doctors and nurses or indeed a health service?

Yeah because everyone who works in the public sector is a doctor or a nurse.

qwert_yuiop

bingo_bango wrote: »

because I know of changes coming very soon which will have a negative socio-economic impact on people just like warmhands?

These being?

darwin-rover

Scheme starts on 2nd March and finishes on 27th March.

warmhands.coldheart

bingo_bango wrote: »

.....Be interesting to see what their position is in 3 years time, because I know of changes coming very soon which will have a negative socio-economic impact on people just like warmhands, but hey, who needs doctors and nurses or indeed a health service?

There is more to the public sector and civil service than doctors, nurses or the wider health service....
Lecturers at subsidised teacher training colleges producing too many teachers ..... Public sector waste
"Catholic" and "Protestant" leisure centres in an area where one would suffice.. Public sector waste...
As above but schools....... Public sector waste....
Golden handshakes and inflated redundancy packages..... Public sector waste.....
Still too many councils for our population... Same in the case of MLA's.... Public sector waste.....

Seems to me there's a lot of cuts could be made with absolutely NO impact on a significant portion of the Northern Ireland Population....

warmhands.coldheart

bingo_bango wrote: »

In fairness to you, you came back with reasoned arguments here and we've cross posted, so I'll do the same.

I accept that there may be people who have received offers, but only those within the DVLANI scheme. The wider CS scheme won't launch for a couple of weeks as mentioned above and no letters of offer have issued to anyone outside DVLANI....

Not true... There are other areas.... Pension Service being one....

Golden_Anemone

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

Fair enough you can blame the system they work within but either way it never stops... look at the recent fiasco over St.Marys and Stranmillis...... Complete Joke....... Wasting public money training teachers who will end up working in call centres or have to move out of Northern Ireland to get a job.....

That situation and may other like it in NI is entirely down to politicians, not civil servants. The Minister decides, the civil servants do. And with the shower of politicians we have there are any number of ridiculously wasteful scenarios in NI. Civil Servants are tax payers too and they also resent such waste.

qwert_yuiop

bingo_bango wrote: »

I know of changes coming very soon which will have a negative socio-economic impact on people

and these are.....?

Do tell, please.

warmhands.coldheart

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

That situation and may other like it in NI is entirely down to politicians, not civil servants. The Minister decides, the civil servants do. And with the shower of politicians we have there are any number of ridiculously wasteful scenarios in NI. Civil Servants are tax payers too and they also resent such waste.

That's very true.... however why then do the unions complain and strike when suggestions or changes are brought forward to cut such bureaucracy..... DVLNI for example. I can now tax my car online in a fraction of the time and 100 times less hassle... remind me why we were employing all those folk in Coleraine to do something everyone can now do themselves online??

warmhands.coldheart

Golden_Anemone wrote: »

..... Civil Servants are tax payers too and they also resent such waste.

That is true but it's all internal money just circulating around internally.... it's not "new" money coming into the system from "outside" That can only come from the Private Sector...