paypal credit nightmare with apple store advise needed

vuvuzela

madein83 wrote: »

What is it with forums and their tendency to attract smug, self-satisfied !!!!!!s?

I'm not sure. Why ARE you here ?

madein83 wrote: »

So, for the first anti-smug answer I've seen on this thread (or indeed any, at this miserable forum):

Well if before resurrecting a thread with your smug ranting at other members you took the time to read it, you would have seen that there were several helpful answers above and not everyone mentioned the wall of text. But that would perhaps not have let you get on your high horse...

madein83

LilElvis wrote: »

Your response might contain useful advice, but the question was posed 6 months ago. Why resurrect an old thread to rant at other members?

Because I was searching for "PayPal credit pre-approval" on Google, out of interest for the subject - and this thread was on the first page of results.

The thread may be dead, but the Internet is forever.

LilElvis

I hope your rant made you feel better then.

madein83

vuvuzela wrote: »

I'm not sure. Why ARE you here ?

Very clever. Well done.

vuvuzela wrote: »

Well if before resurrecting a thread with your smug ranting at other members you took the time to read it, you would have seen that there were several helpful answers above and not everyone mentioned the wall of text. But that would perhaps not have let you get on your high horse...

High horse? The OP asks a question and was probably quite worried about the financial repercussions. Instead of help, he gets attacked by the senior members for not conforming to laying out ASCII characters on a screen in an acceptable format. And I'M on a high horse?

As for anyone who did help, obviously, my contempt is not directed at them. There are notable exceptions in most forums.

But the general modus operandi of senior board members here (those with thousands of posts under their belt) seems to be "look at me attack someone in as snide and sarky a way as possible! look at how clever I am!", rather than genuine, ego-free assistance. Not exactly the kind of community I'd want to cultivate, personally. Alas, in virtual communities such as this it seems to be, sadly, a classic side-effect of the perceived pecking order people place themselves in. Doesn't mean a damn in the real world, of course.

Anyway, each to their own. Hopefully the OP's situation was resolved.

cono1717

I don't think any post is egotistical people come here for advice about things that concern money be it a little or a lot. Many of the steps that people want to take take time and money (letters, court actions etc) when someone posts on here in an abrupt fashion it's because it needs to be done.

If someone asks how can they claim compensation for something which they aren't entitled to then they need to be told straight. What good is an advice forum that gives bad advice if there is no chance of something happening you should be told no.

Everyone that comes is here is looking for something as they fully believe they are in the right - there are cases that they are and this forum is brilliant but when they are in the wrong they need to be told.

madein83

cono1717 wrote: »

I don't think any post is egotistical people come here for advice about things that concern money be it a little or a lot. Many of the steps that people want to take take time and money (letters, court actions etc) when someone posts on here in an abrupt fashion it's because it needs to be done.

If someone asks how can they claim compensation for something which they aren't entitled to then they need to be told straight. What good is an advice forum that gives bad advice if there is no chance of something happening you should be told no.

Everyone that comes is here is looking for something as they fully believe they are in the right - there are cases that they are and this forum is brilliant but when they are in the wrong they need to be told.

In those cases, great.

But when the reply to genuine financial distress is:

"Is it the 'return' key that's broken on the laptop?"

or:

"The ENTER key is very useful though.

Like this."

It's just gratuitous sarcasm, and not helpful in the least.

cono1717

Whilst I agree there are better ways to handle the situation than that - there has to be a truce on both sides - someone mentioning the text being hard to read should prompt the OP to go back and revise the post not respond with "I didn't realise my grammar was being assessed".

I also believe that such grammatical layouts should be detailed in the Etiquette section of the forum - to avoid any confusions.

LilElvis

Madein83 - there are two ways forward:

1) you no longer access this forum and, if you need advice in the future, seek it elsewhere.

2) you become an active member of the forum and offer advice in response to questions posed, phrasing your posts in an ego-free and helpful manner, thereby improving the "tone" of the forum.

madein83

cono1717 wrote: »

Whilst I agree there are better ways to handle the situation than that - there has to be a truce on both sides - someone mentioning the text being hard to read should prompt the OP to go back and revise the post not respond with "I didn't realise my grammar was being assessed".

I also believe that such grammatical layouts should be detailed in the Etiquette section of the forum - to avoid any confusions.

Yeah, but be context-sensitive.

The guy had just lost use of his laptop. He was probably looking for some quick advice, in a panicky state, maybe using his phone to tap out long sentences. I'm not sure scrambling around to find the "Etiquette" section was necessarily the first thing on his mind.

As much as it would serve readers better to look at perfectly polished prose with correct formatting, I'm sure any sensible/reasonable person could overlook it and answer the question with useful advice.

The alternative is to consider the text illegible, and not bother answering. That is the reader's prerogative, and dare I say, the higher road if the only alternative they can muster is a sarcastic comment.

CoolHotCold

Anyway, why did you resurrect the thread apart from "The Internet Lives Forever".

Because you're contributing absolutely nothing and rather than restarting a thread which is finished and calling out the forum users for their tone and attitude, why not use the forum tools to report users or message mods.