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School Issue 6th form rights

Just looking for some advice on this please-


My brothers son is in 6th form at school and is now 17. My brother has been separated from the mum for over 10 years but has full parental rights and until just over a year ago had weekly contact. It stopped when son decided he did not want to see his dad as he had refused to pay for him to go Ibiza for his 16th birthday.


My brother recently moved house because his work relocated him and now lives 75 miles away from daughter and mum.


He uses a page on the school website which shows sons attendance, results, homework etc. He uses this as neither son nor mum will speak to him about the schooling. There has been a huge problem with his attendance at school for the last 3 years. The mum says it has nothing to do with my brother and feels he shouldn't be checking as she is the resident parent.


He has always got school reports in the post etc. Last week he could not log in to the schools page and upon ringing the school it seems that his details and password have been removed. He is not sure if the mum or the son have removed his details as the school say they cannot tell him.


I suppose what Im asking is- Is it right that either the mum or son can remove his details from the school records when he has full parental rights?


Thank you for reading.
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  • atolaas
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    I would think that this has been done at the mother's request. If your brother doesn't have a good relationship with her then I doubt that his access to his son's school records will be restored. How was he allowed access in the first place?
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  • peachyprice
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    At 17 it's the son's choice whether he wants both, either or neither of his parents to see his records.
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  • pmlindyloo
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    At 17 it's the son's choice whether he wants both, either or neither of his parents to see his records.

    Parental rights continue until a child is 18 years old (16 years in Scotland) so based on this I would say that the father has the right to see school reports etc

    http://www.separatedfamiliesmatter.org.uk/downloads/Parental_Responsibility_-_Rights_and_Responsibilities_of_Parents_who_Live_Apart.pdf
  • On the school's database there will be a little box that is ticked for which parents have PR (parental responsibility) this should be ticked and if it is the school would have no right to withhold the information from the parent. If it isn't you can show the proof of parental responsibility and they will tick the box for you and the same will apply. If both parents have parental responsibility the school has no right to withhold information from either parent. As soon as the son turns 18 though the situation changes. HTH
  • fivetide
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    Mum doesn't sound like a good parent. Sorry but for me, she should be working with dad in the son's interest so they can help him as much as possible.


    Appreciate this doesn't answer the question per say but I hope that he can get it sorted with the school.
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  • swingaloo
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    Thank you for the replies. Its now sorted. Mum had told the school to remove his name from the records but the school have now put it back on so all is sorted.
  • Poppie68
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    I would hope both parents of a 17 year old would allow them a choice of which if any parents they want to access their school records, after all if they chose the apprenticehip route the parents wouldn't be allowed to access HR records.
  • FBaby
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    swingaloo wrote: »
    Thank you for the replies. Its now sorted. Mum had told the school to remove his name from the records but the school have now put it back on so all is sorted.

    That part might be, but what about the important one, his relationship with his son? I personally find it odd to focus on being able to see a 17yo report. Surely if he wants to motivate his son, he can find other ways to do it than pointing at his report as if he was a 10yo?
  • swingaloo
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    FBaby wrote: »
    That part might be, but what about the important one, his relationship with his son? I personally find it odd to focus on being able to see a 17yo report. Surely if he wants to motivate his son, he can find other ways to do it than pointing at his report as if he was a 10yo?





    It isn't about reports, its about the whole general knowing what is going on with his education.


    This is a mum who has repeatedly kept the son at home over most of the years of his schooling partly because she would not get out of bed in a morning to get him to school. In later years the son would not get out of bed to attend. The only time he had anything like a realistic attendance was in the 2 years when he lived with my brother.


    Unfortunately he prefers to live with his mum now as there are no boundaries set and considering he went back to 6th form to re sit his GCSEs it is quite important that he actually attends.
  • elmer
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    It obviously is important that the son attends school, but Im not sure what you're brother can do about it if the son doesn't attend, whether he knows about it or not.
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