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DVLA trade plates advice

Hello all
I am new to the site and was looking for advice on this matter.
I am a motor trader and was using a vehicle with valid trade plates displayed. For some reason it was picked up by a camera as 'untaxed'
The DVLA sent a letter asking for a fine, to which I replied explaining that the vehicle was using trade plates. They do not seem to have received my response and have now taken the matter to court. I have now written to them again but they have not yet responded.
My problem is that the court date is approaching and I am now not sure what to do.
Does anybody have any advise on this? Many thanks in advance
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  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,956 Forumite
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    Sounds like you'll have to repeat your defence to the court.

    Maybe next time put black tape across the number plate so it doesn't get picked up by ANPR?
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    Have you asked to see the images to confirm that the trade plate is visible? That would seem to me to be a key part of your defence, and going to court without it could be difficult - if DVLA have refused to give it to you that's a different matter.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    You got proof of postage? If so, i'd take that along with proof of trade plate to court. Or even take the actual trade plate strapped to your chest :)
  • skivenov
    skivenov Posts: 2,204 Forumite
    I'd put money in you getting there, the prosecutor having a little chat to "help you" and scare you into paying up before you go in. Then if you go in, theyll present no evidence. On the for, theres a box asking if you Woul like the witnesses to attend. Tick this.

    Don't forget to get your costs.
    Yes it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
    Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
  • s_b
    s_b Posts: 4,464 Forumite
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    Hi trader67 you dont say what you are being fined for ?
  • phill99
    phill99 Posts: 9,093 Forumite
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    s_b wrote: »
    Hi trader67 you dont say what you are being fined for ?

    Read the original post.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
  • s_b
    s_b Posts: 4,464 Forumite
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    phill99 wrote: »
    Read the original post.


    Hi yes i saw the reason but i wanted a fuller explanation before giving fuller advice
    why?
    because he risks more by using trade plates but not covering car plates up as per the now keenly invoked trade plate rules than just a fine for no road tax

    see here
    http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/485-trade-plates-–-have-you-been-caught-out-and-fined/
  • colino
    colino Posts: 5,059 Forumite
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    Did you have the cars number plates obscured? We were actually given friendly advice locally that it is easy pickings, due to the ANPRs for some areas to "forget" about the concept of trade plates, (cameras don't see them) and charge traders and see what they could make. It is now the norm to use cable ties to cover the front plate and use the cord on the back as the old, chucking the plates on the dash isn't worth the hassle.
  • colino
    colino Posts: 5,059 Forumite
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    Interesting read sb, it looks like every area is having their own interpretation and one saying if you obscure the front plate you will be thought of as a bilker. Great.
  • Many thanls for all your responses. I can acknowledge the car number plates were not obscured but does this invalidate the trade plates? Surely trade plates will exempt holders from Section 29 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act (1994)?
    They have given me the 'photographic evidence' which only shows the car number but not the trade plates as it was already dark.

    They have now responded to say the have received my letters and explanations but are still insisting on an out of court settlement of £97. They have given me until 17/04 to pay this

    I sent a 'not guilty' response to the court but there was no option for me to explain my defence. Does anybody know what should happen next
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