📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

What can we do if we are on benefits (merged)

Options
12324262829

Comments

  • nickmack
    nickmack Posts: 4,435 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    chispa wrote: »
    I've spoken to DWP who confirm it is unlawful to take charges from benefit money wherever it may be. However the banks ignore this and no one cares

    This is a grey area and widely misinterpreted. The problem being, once the money is paid into a bank account, it is no longer 'benefit money', it's just money, unless it's explicity designated as such. Away to recognise this and help prevent charges from being taken is to use the 'Right of Appropriation'. The extract below is from the CAB website:

    "Even if your account is overdrawn, you can choose how any further money you pay into the account is used (for example to pay your mortgage or rent). This is called first right of appropriation. You'll need to write to them with new instructions each time you make a deposit."
  • C_Ronaldo
    C_Ronaldo Posts: 4,732 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Why not have your benefits paid into another bank account with another bank
    No Links in Signature by site rules - MSE Forum Team 2
  • nickmack
    nickmack Posts: 4,435 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    C_Ronaldo wrote: »
    Why not have your benefits paid into another bank account with another bank

    Yes, sorry I should have added that at the end of my message.
  • emmagrey
    emmagrey Posts: 35 Forumite
    C_Ronaldo wrote: »
    Why not have your benefits paid into another bank account with another bank

    thats what i would suggest. dont even risk them taking you're benefits, just make the bank wait for their ridiculous charges and get benefits paid into another bank account with another bank.
  • today my bank has charged me again for unpaid debit, i rang but to no avail,usual ignorance they forget they work for us.i looked into this and found that BENEFITS PAID INTO A BANK ARE PROTECTED UNDER SOCIAL SECURITY ACT 1992 SUB SECTION 187.THIS STATES THAT THE BANK CANNOT APPLY CHARGES TO ANY MONEY RECEIVED AS BENEFITS AND AS SUCH ARE UNLAWFUL AND THEREFORE DISALLOWED. CONFIRMED BY CASE WOODS V RBS.also tax credits are classed as a benefit .i have since sent this info to my bank and expect to get the charges returned to my account.interestingly i have been on incapacity since 2004 so any charges taken from me since then are also due immediately .i hope this may be helpful to someone in the same situation.:j:T
  • as anyone any idea how to contact british gas as they dont answer phones or reply to e-mails.i had a prepayment meter fitted 3years ago for a bill i ran up.paid the debt off not had a statement of use since i am probably still paying a high tarriff ,has anyone any ideas yous
  • blackwidowz
    blackwidowz Posts: 497 Forumite
    What about child benefit, is that exempt?
  • curious about this as i am in receipt of child benefit and maternity allowance.still getting bank charges so would be interested to hear if these are exempt
  • ged1980
    ged1980 Posts: 1,342 Forumite
    As most people will now be aware, in July 2007 the Office of Fair Trading agreed with seven major high street banks to a test case to determine the legality of Bank Charges. This effectively has put all claims on hold until the case is decided. However, there is an Act of Parliament which over-rides this if you are in receipt of any of the following benefits.
    • Income Support
    • Tax Credits
    • Child Benefit
    • Job seekers allowance
    • Incapacity benefit
    • Disability living allowance
    • Attendance Allowance
    • CSA payments
    • Other DWP payments.
    These benefits are granted to stop hardship and are designed to meet basic day to day needs, and are protected under the Social Security Administration Act 1992 sub section 187. This stipulates that the bank can not apply any charges to money received as benefit, and any such charges are unlawful and therefore disallowed. If you live north of the border you also have the weight of a successful test case won against a bank (Woods v Royal Bank of Scotland).


    Thanks to smithja pointing me to this info
    If you dont like me remember its mind over matter, I dont mind and you dont matter ;)
  • Its a myth about that bank charges and benefits cannot be taken.
    Woods v. RBS was about "arrestment", a definition appears in this article from Scottish Debtline. http://www.scottishdebtline.co.uk/faqs/legal.htm
    Bank charges is not the issue in Woods v RBS with regards to current bank charges claims and therefore expect a negative response or a wait and see or a are you in hardship response.
    I have not worked for NatWest Bank since February 2009

    This username is no longer active.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177K Life & Family
  • 257.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.