Advice needed over aggressive buyer

Guest101

jjlandlord wrote: »

I'm not going to suggest that this buyer might find some nice 'gifts' left by OP when he moves in... No, no, no, that would be totally immature.

I've heard prawns really start to smell after a few days... OP definitely shouldn't leave some behind a cupboard.

Pyjamas

Guest101 wrote: »

I've heard prawns really start to smell after a few days... OP definitely shouldn't leave some behind a cupboard.

All my family and friends are full of this following last night, I am told the curtain poles are a great hiding place too! They are all tripping over themselves to plant something in the house now he has done this!

He is renovating it all anyway so no point in leaving the kipper, prawns etc. It's keeping me giggling though!

DaftyDuck

But, is he replacing the floor boards? Anchovy paste... mmmm, I do love it so, but it does get everywhere while I'm eating, I'm just so messy.


Powdered jelly down the bog is a good one too....


More seriously, DO TELL YOUR SOLICITOR! (S)He should ensure with utmost care (more than usual) that all funds are fully received and accounted before completion is enacted, and that only then will keys be released. I might even go further and suggest, in these circumstances, keys are handed over by the solicitor, and you regain those held by the estate agent.

Mind you, my solicitor is a thug of a bloke. Sweet as pie, actually, but you wouldn't think he was a solicitor, more "doorman" of a seedy club.

Just to repeat, ad nauseam, he has no right whatsoever to entry (even to garden) until after completion.

fivetide

old school cling film over the bog seat? that should get him at least once!


you know, you wrapped it to make sure it didn't make the house smell for him.

duchy

Pyjamas wrote: »

duchy, that is awful! My guy is a nasty piece of work, you can tell he thinks the world revolves around him and he is a smug arrogant jumped up nothing. He terrified me yesterday, its only now I am starting to get over it. Reading these replies telling me I have some rights to keep him out is making me feel so much better, I have been so shaken and teary and absolutely terrified I would have to let him in my house. He is a property developer who intends to live in my house, he wants to get all his builders in as he is renovating it. He is desperate to have these 4 hours in our house, if he hadn't have been so horrible maybe I would have co operated. Now I just don't think I can stomach him in my house, the police called us back today and said we could have a policeman present if we are forced to have him in the house.

Sweetie You are not forced to have him in the house.
Until you exchange it is YOUR house and you have NO obligation to let him in.
Tell you solicitor to contact his and say you will not be permitting access til after compleation and if there is any further harassment you will be taking legal action against him. Keep a copy of the letter the solicitor sends and if he shows up again - Call the police straight away. Not only is he a bully but he has no legal right to access til the sale is completed.

NobodysChild

Wow Pyjamas he sounds like a total git! I can't give you any more advice than the lovely people here have; but basically, you do not have to kept him in until moving day!

I do feel sorry for you sweetie, but not half as sorry as I feel for your old neighbours! :eek:

They will be stuck next to him now!

All the best with your move. I hope you and your family will be happy in your new home.

duchy

Pyjamas wrote: »

The police told me they have a duty to keep the peace and that as he behaved threateningly to me yesterday, if I had to allow him access contractually, as all he was saying is that I was in breach of contract by not letting him in, he wanted in there and then! I don't think I will waste the police's time, it looks like he is ignorant of the contract and its terms so I won't need to let him in anyway.

I did keep saying to the police yesterday that I was sorry and I felt like I was wasting their time, but he was outside my house after the altercation with 2 burly henchmen for nearly another hour, pointing at the house staring at it. I was so frightened alone with the baby I felt I had to all them. They took it really seriously, wanted all his details, they wanted me to log on and identify him on a google image search - the lot! They were outstanding! I won't be wasting their time again though, if the law is on my side then we will stand our ground.

You aren't wasting their time - You pay your taxes and are entitled to the protection of the law. Unless there is a clause in your contract that says you will allow him access before you complete (very unlikely but your solicitor can confirm this) then he can jog on.

I feel sorry for your neighbours -no doubt they will all be aware of his behaviour before he moves in though so will be forearmed.

Pyjamas

update: my estate agent called me to say she had spoken with him and told him that he has no legal right to be on our property. Apparently he was not happy and went off at her about breach of contract and she told him there was no breach of contract only an informal possible arrangement that we have now retracted due to his behaviour yesterday. He apparently was not bothered in the slightest that I had called the police.

She has assured me that there will be no come back and that he will not be coming to the house.

I will contact the solicitors so they can have it on record, but we stupidly used the estate agents solicitors that are an online company based hundreds of miles away from us. They are very impersonal and you never speak to the same person twice as they have so many staff. Not sure I want to involve them too much though as they were quite tricky through conveyancing and it was hard to chase them all the time etc.

The estate agent is still being really helpful so we would rather go through her.

AMILLIONDOLLARS

duchy wrote: »

Sweetie You are not forced to have him in the house.
Until you exchange it is YOUR house and you have NO obligation to let him in.
Tell you solicitor to contact his and say you will not be permitting access til after compleation and if there is any further harassment you will be taking legal action against him. Keep a copy of the letter the solicitor sends and if he shows up again - Call the police straight away. Not only is he a bully but he has no legal right to access til the sale is completed.

Exchange and completion are two different elements of the contract. Exchange ties you into the deal, Completion is just what it states Completion of the deal. On completion roughly around lunchtime, he officially get the keys, its his house. Not before then. You have every right to bar him from the house. He should consult his lawyers of the legalities of English law, regarding purchasing.

Please note you can put anything on the Internet, it does not mean it's true!

Your ordeal is nearly over, let's hope he does not mess-up completion, by not having all his money in place!

Good luck

Pyjamas

NobodysChild wrote: »

Wow Pyjamas he sounds like a total git! I can't give you any more advice than the lovely people here have; but basically, you do not have to kept him in until moving day!

I do feel sorry for you sweetie, but not half as sorry as I feel for your old neighbours! :eek:

They will be stuck next to him now!

All the best with your move. I hope you and your family will be happy in your new home.

On a cheerier note, friends of mine that own the lovely lovely pub down the road that he will no doubt want to drink in are aware of his behaviour and requested a picture of him as he is now barred from there. Every cloud eh!