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Two thirds of private rental landlords will leave sector if Labour win
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They worked perfectly ok in the 60s and 70s when the mix on tenants was different to now and I think if you had spent time on council estates then you would be surprised how nice they are. BTL can cause some of the problems you mentioned in your earlier post especially in areas when the density of BTL is high.
I'm not sure what you are saying.
Do you believe that simply reproducing the 60s and 70s is the answer?
Or is a new model required? If so what might it be?0 -
ruggedtoast.
I suspect that you don't remember the Golden Era of Council Housing.
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One of the real issues with post-war council housing was that a lot of it was built by Labour councils who had grand ideas about creating communal spaces and suchlike in order to keep intact some notion of the 'community spirit' of the good old fashioned slums.
What we ended up with was crime ridden formica topped ghettos for benefit claimants.
The book to read was 'Utopia on Trial'. Big in the 80s.
http://www.createstreets.com/news/4585309664/An-interview-with-Prof-Alice-Coleman-whose-study-Utopia-on-Trial-infuriated-architectural-establishment-and-helped-change-housing-policy-in-1980s/84354140 -
ruggedtoast.
I suspect that you don't remember the Golden Era of Council Housing.
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Funny, considering that you have never lived in a council house (or social housing for that matter, no doubt) that you are such an expert on the subject.
Why did people buy the 1.5m homes under right to buy if they were so lousy ? Were they all time served cabinet makers desperate to do their own repairs ?
Private rented houses in the 1960's frequently never had an inside toilet or hot water - many in Liverpool had been built as temporary housing in the 1890's.
Why are there almost 1.5 million people currently on social housing waiting lists ?
It's not in the main, because the rents are cheaper, it is security of tenure.
There is little council housing - its almost entirely Housing Association now, who exclusively use private contractors.
It was never "illegal" to make your own repairs, unless it was a structural change.
Secure tenants have the right to decorate, put a new kitchen or bathroom, put a shed or greenhouse up and even build an extension (subject to written permission).
Oh yeah - Ronan Point was built by Taylor Woodrow not council workers.
"Lack of quality control led construction workers to fill the joints with newspapers, instead of concrete"
That wouldn't be private sector workers would it - who'd a thought it - the private sector cutting corners to make more profit.0 -
I'm not sure what you are saying.
Do you believe that simply reproducing the 60s and 70s is the answer?
Or is a new model required? If so what might it be?
As you probably well no I am not saying we need to go back to the system of the 60s and 70s, then again I don't think we need a completely new system just modifications to existing systems and more properties. Unlike you I don't believe that in London and the south east you can simply privately build your way out of the problem.0 -
One of the real issues with post-war council housing was that a lot of it was built by Labour councils who had grand ideas about creating communal spaces and suchlike in order to keep intact some notion of the 'community spirit' of the good old fashioned slums.
What we ended up with was crime ridden formica topped ghettos for benefit claimants.
The book to read was 'Utopia on Trial'. Big in the 80s.
http://www.createstreets.com/news/4585309664/An-interview-with-Prof-Alice-Coleman-whose-study-Utopia-on-Trial-infuriated-architectural-establishment-and-helped-change-housing-policy-in-1980s/8435414
Is that a problem of social housing or the society in general you should look at some of the private estates where I live.0 -
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As you probably well no I am not saying we need to go back to the system of the 60s and 70s, then again I don't think we need a completely new system just modifications to existing systems and more properties. Unlike you I don't believe that in London and the south east you can simply privately build your way out of the problem.
well, no I don't know what you are proposing.0 -
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