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£400 for Prernant Smoking Mothers to Give Quit
clarryd
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Well this is one of those moments when we think, hang on a minute, if you are not quitting because you are pregnant, then why do they think they quit for £400.
This system would have to be monitored very closely, and how would they do that.
"Yes doctor I promise I have stopped, can I have the £400 now, and is there any more money if I give up drinking too".
There would be no way that what they are being told will be the truth and for £400 would just make this another way for certain people to defraud the system.
They should never reward people for doing the right thing, 26 years ago when I was pregnant, stopping smoking was the first thing I did and the second was drinking alcohol, I was a heavy smoker and just knew that I was not giving my unborn child a better chance of life, as for drinking alcohol I wasn't a big drinker so that was really easy, but the smoking was the hardest to do but I just kept thinking of my baby. Its called will power and if a baby is not enough for you to quit then what is, definitely not £400.00.
What do you think????
This system would have to be monitored very closely, and how would they do that.
"Yes doctor I promise I have stopped, can I have the £400 now, and is there any more money if I give up drinking too".
There would be no way that what they are being told will be the truth and for £400 would just make this another way for certain people to defraud the system.
They should never reward people for doing the right thing, 26 years ago when I was pregnant, stopping smoking was the first thing I did and the second was drinking alcohol, I was a heavy smoker and just knew that I was not giving my unborn child a better chance of life, as for drinking alcohol I wasn't a big drinker so that was really easy, but the smoking was the hardest to do but I just kept thinking of my baby. Its called will power and if a baby is not enough for you to quit then what is, definitely not £400.00.
What do you think????
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what does this have to do with benefits or tax credits?0
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Well this is one of those moments when we think, hang on a minute, if you are not quitting because you are pregnant, then why do they think they quit for £400.
This system would have to be monitored very closely, and how would they do that.
"Yes doctor I promise I have stopped, can I have the £400 now, and is there any more money if I give up drinking too".
There would be no way that what they are being told will be the truth and for £400 would just make this another way for certain people to defraud the system.
They should never reward people for doing the right thing, 26 years ago when I was pregnant, stopping smoking was the first thing I did and the second was drinking alcohol, I was a heavy smoker and just knew that I was not giving my unborn child a better chance of life, as for drinking alcohol I wasn't a big drinker so that was really easy, but the smoking was the hardest to do but I just kept thinking of my baby. Its called will power and if a baby is not enough for you to quit then what is, definitely not £400.00.
What do you think????
If only half or even a quarter of the people who claim to stop smoking, actually do stop smoking then this is a wonderful idea.
The damaged caused to an unborn foetus because of smoking is likely to cost the NHS far more than 400,800, or even 1200 pounds over the course of that humans life.
The people who came up with this idea are probably think of it more in those terms (in terms of health economics), rather than being paid to do the right thing.0 -
What a stupid policy. Smoking is a choice.
Are they going to hand out bonuses to people who can stop drinking and drugs for 9 months too?0 -
This system would have to be monitored very closely, and how would they do that.
"Yes doctor I promise I have stopped, can I have the £400 now, and is there any more money if I give up drinking too".
There would be no way that what they are being told will be the truth and for £400 would just make this another way for certain people to defraud the system.
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This was the trial -
Interventions The control group received routine care, which was the offer of a face to face appointment to discuss smoking and cessation and, for those who attended and set a quit date, the offer of free nicotine replacement therapy for 10 weeks provided by pharmacy services, and four, weekly support phone calls.
The intervention group received routine care plus the offer of up to £400 of shopping vouchers: £50 for attending a face to face appointment and setting a quit date; then another £50 if at four weeks’ post-quit date exhaled carbon monoxide confirmed quitting; a further £100 was provided for continued validated abstinence of exhaled carbon monoxide after 12 weeks; a final £200 voucher was provided for validated abstinence of exhaled carbon monoxide at 34-38 weeks’ gestation.
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What a stupid policy. Smoking is a choice.
Are they going to hand out bonuses to people who can stop drinking and drugs for 9 months too?
Not really stupid when a peer reviewed article of the study shows strong evidence that it works though, is it?
Conclusion from the link above:
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This phase II randomised controlled trial provides substantial evidence for the efficacy of incentives for smoking cessation in pregnancy; as this was only a single centre trial, incentives should now be tested in different types of pregnancy cessation services and in different parts of the United Kingdom.
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Think of it as spending £400 in an attempt to improve the quality of life in an unborn human.0 -
It is a sad reality that mothers are more likely to stop for £400 than for the benefit of their unborn baby, but that unfortunately is what our society has become. The statistics show that it does indeed work.
As a public entity, we are individually responsible for the welfare of those who are vulnerable, so if £400 means that a few more babies will be born healthier, then it is our duty to support this scheme which by the way does involve blood level testing before money is handed in.0 -
Not really stupid when a peer reviewed article of the study shows strong evidence that it works though, is it?
Conclusion from the link above:
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This phase II randomised controlled trial provides substantial evidence for the efficacy of incentives for smoking cessation in pregnancy; as this was only a single centre trial, incentives should now be tested in different types of pregnancy cessation services and in different parts of the United Kingdom.
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Think of it as spending £400 in an attempt to improve the quality of life in an unborn human.
It's a pity mothers-to-be can't improve the quality of life of their own unborn child through their own willpower instead of relying on money from government.
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It's a pity mothers-to-be can't improve the quality of life of their own unborn child through their own willpower instead of relying on money from government.
Indeed, I'd be offering two options - stop smoking or have regular visits both pre and post birth from social services. If they can't do something so simple for their child then they clearly need outside help.0
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