MSE News: Why selling your home could get harder next week

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silvercar wrote: »

Don't think anyone is buying into the idea that houses will get snapped up within 48 hours, so better check the new website or you won't get a look in.

Article in today's Times suggesting that nothing can overtake rightmove, that this is an effort mainly to hurt online estate agents.

Its consolidating all the online estate agents into one monolithic, controlling first strike advantage machine.

They hope by way of the fact that you, as a consumer, are left with little choice but to use them. I say little because if you want to remain 48 hrs behind your competitor, stick with right move by all means. And then that's only even if they get selected as second fiddle in the first place.

They become the first port of call for your online property search, because you have no choice, because they have just been anti-competitive on your a$$. They are playing the statistics game. Most searches are daily and also set on automatic subscription. This means your normally notified immediately by right move or zoopla, as soon as a property is put on the market.

IF your serious, most of the time you will see what you want then immediately call the estate agent because you know though experience, its the first few that get to view, that get to offer, no viewing no offering.

So, now we have a hostile estate agency industry driven website, OnTheMarket .com, with a temporal monopoly on your time, attention and dream house. Despite the first 48 hrs being the prime time for any online house sale these days, ergo, you wont need right move anymore, thusly, their traffic diminishes and eventually bye bye. The first strike advantage can now well and truly be exploited. They now have your undivided devotion so what weird and wonderful things can they do to achieve their goal which is, to maintain the reason for their existence and put a stop to vendors bypassing them with ever more efficient, cheaper, better and not to mention impartial means to sell your house, land etc (aka fair competition). Maintain their ability to pervert and steer the housing market where the secretive closed door elite lobbyists and leaders in Real Estate want it to be, such as continue to pander to foreign investment and inflate the property market to shore up our GDP, a way to fiddle the UK balance sheets so to speak and of course, continue to earn grossly disproportionate sums for often poor and little work ???

I wonder who can list the many ways in which this website could adversely test your patience, affect your range of choices, steer the direction and honesty of the search results, diminish impartiality and purposely offer reduced features and options for customized searches, and ultimately seek to undermine the kinds of great facilities and perhaps precedent right move and Zoopla et al have brought you to expect. Ultimately enabling the estate agents grip on your assets for a long time to come ???

If ever came the day where you could take some photos, pop them on right move yourself and have an unbiased independent property valuation performed for under £100 , the housing market might just begin to regulate itself instead of being price fixed and artificially inflated by the manipulative and corrupt estate agency industry.

Heaven forbid, that day is now, the problem is, try telling that to your neighbour. I wonder if OnTheMarket .com will allow you? Rightmove do, zoopla do... Yes they will... go to an estate agent. I wonder how that benefits them?

I fear they will win this war and my heart truly goes out to the first time buyers. For that term will soon be consigned the history books, since no one will be able to buy there own home again, the way these evil scum are allowed to carry on. Dont even begin to mention the sick and bank undermining joke that is - the governments 'loan to pay off a loan' schemes !

In fact, you have to question the kind of lives our children will have as they grow up, living under the thumb of a landlord is all they have to look forward to. But I digress.

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This is anti-competitive BS!

Get these boys on their a$$!

http://ec.europa.eu/competition/antitrust/overview_en.html

Porcupine

So what we need is an estate agent price comparison site. Search all the online portals and scrape the results into one easy listing, with extra info. A bit like Property Bee but without the tumbleweeds.

System

No idea how this could be anti competitive - considering that each agent almost always have an on line advert on their own website anyway. Buyers, for their convenience, often ignore this and chose another website for viewing details.

So worst case scenario is to get a list of agents in your area and get details from each one. We used to have to do that anyway until a few years ago!!!!!!!!

All houses will still be listed individually in addition to websites that list various agents. So monopoly and dupopoly are wasted terms here.

Zogger

It looks like this just launched a few minutes ago (unless it was a cache weirdness) - I loaded it and refreshed a couple of times and it said they were launching on the 26th, then a few minute later it was open.

In my town it has.... 5 properties, from 4 different agents for the equivalent of my normal RM search which has 64. In total there are 45 properties for sale listed in my town on OnTheMarket and 226 on RM

Herbalus

Zogger wrote: »

In my town it has.... 5 properties, from 4 different agents for the equivalent of my normal RM search which has 64. In total there are 45 properties for sale listed in my town on OnTheMarket and 226 on RM

In Norwich, Rightmove has 1000+, Zoopla has 846, and onthemarket has 146.

miller

Porcupine wrote: »

So what we need is an estate agent price comparison site. Search all the online portals and scrape the results into one easy listing, with extra info. A bit like Property Bee but without the tumbleweeds.

You are assuming they have a fixed tariff.

The two big names I invited round just wanted to screw as much cash out of me as possible. One of which wanted to come back after I had invited a small independent company round. The small independent company got the job because they were half the price of the big names and didn't **** me about.

It's a stressful enough business anyway without these scum.

mileslondoner

By putting this information in News Section and with such a dramatic subject Tara did a great job for a PR/marketing/advertising cause of this new website.

Why would anyone check it first before rightmove though - why would anyone even try to memorise its address?

If I want to see all updated properties in the area I go to rightmove - if I want to join a hide and seek estate agents game then I waste time on their new site.

penguingirl

mileslondoner wrote: »

Why would anyone check it first before rightmove though - why would anyone even try to memorise its address?

Because apparently properties will go on it 48hrs before they go on RM (if that's the one that they decide to keep)

We put our house up for sale in December and picked the EA who wasn't leaving zoopla. I know most people use RM anyway, but I decided that we didn't want to be guinea pigs for the new website. That and the other EA we were seriously considered omitted to mention to us they were dropping zoopla, and it was only when we pulled them up following the 'we market on RM and zoopla' sales spiel that he admitted the change.

penguingirl

Within one mile of my house
Rightmove- 108 properties (144 if include STC)
Zoopla- 36 (50)
Onthemarket 95 (68)

Am I alone in preferring zoopla to RM? I use RM due to the number of properties on there and I'm signed up to alerts for the area we're moving to, but I like the stats on zoopla about time on market and prices changes. I know propertybee can do that, but I don't want to have to install an add-on