Dental Implants...Cheap???

L.S.D.

Toothsmith wrote: »

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You've now shown up my arguments to be based on misconceptions and false information - so now I'll just stamp my foot on the ground and use a trite sound byte. Therefore proving my case.

I have done a lot of research asking opinions of people who have had the work done & dentists. My own dentist who is not from the UK but is an excellent dentist (one of the best I have used) is from a country where implants are a third of the UK price and agrees that the UK is overpriced. His nurse used to be a UK implant nurse. Nothing I have found contradicts the fact that dentists, especially implant dentist are charging an awful lot in the UK. Translation. 'ripping us off in the UK'. or 'Rip off Britain'
Not a trite sound byte but an expression that increases in fact the more research you do.

brook2jack

zagfles wrote: »

Yes, certainly less red tape. But is there any evidence of (eg) worse outcomes with Hungarian dentists than UK dentists? When I researched this a few years ago the Hungarians seemed to have an excellent reputation. I'd have gone there had I needed an implant.

And therein lies the problem. People who have spent a lot of money on cheap , quick fix dentistry abroad , do not on the whole return abroad when problems occur. Mostly because of finance as even those dentists who "guarantee" their work have stipulations like annual check ups where you pay your own travel costs.

Implants, even placed badly or placed in people who are not suitable, will look ok for a few years.mthen the problems start.

The difficulty is many who go abroad for quick fix dentistry will not have addressed the reason for the tooth loss in the first place and so are doomed to lose the implants.

All of the implantologists I know regularly deal with the results of dental tourism.
http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/the-high-cost-of-cutprice-dentistry-30354219.html

zagfles

brook2jack wrote: »

And therein lies the problem. People who have spent a lot of money on cheap , quick fix dentistry abroad , do not on the whole return abroad when problems occur. Mostly because of finance as even those dentists who "guarantee" their work have stipulations like annual check ups where you pay your own travel costs.

Implants, even placed badly or placed in people who are not suitable, will look ok for a few years.mthen the problems start.

The difficulty is many who go abroad for quick fix dentistry will not have addressed the reason for the tooth loss in the first place and so are doomed to lose the implants.

All of the implantologists I know regularly deal with the results of dental tourism.
http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/the-high-cost-of-cutprice-dentistry-30354219.html

But they don't deal with those whose treatment was successful, so they don't see the overall picture. Obviously there are cowboys abroad, just like there are here (how many dentists have been done for overtreating here - eg fillings which aren't needed).

Some more newspaper articles to add balance:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/hungary/738488/Dental-tourism-in-Hungary.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1619027/I-flew-to-Hungary-to-have-my-teeth-fixed.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2241493/Mamma-Mia-I-saved-5-000-getting-teeth-fixed--going-Budapest.html

brook2jack

This experience is a common one http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.co.uk/2007/09/dental-implants-in-hungary.html

Even the Hungarians themselves admit that dental tourism is falling as the price savings only make sense with big treatment plans
http://www.imtj.co.uk/news/?entryid82=437565

There is a thread from someone called mark2spark who was thinking about having implants abroad. He eventually had them done here and the conclusion he came to was that there was no way he would have travelled abroad for the multiple appointments that were needed to complete his treatment which, when he last posted , was still ongoing.

brook2jack

Here is mark2sparks thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2537729

zagfles

brook2jack wrote: »

This experience is a common one http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.co.uk/2007/09/dental-implants-in-hungary.html

How common? Compared to the examples I posted of successful treatment? Do you have any stats? Individual stories as we've both posted are all very well, you can use them to make almost any point, but some overall stats from large numbers of patients would be more use.

Even the Hungarians themselves admit that dental tourism is falling as the price savings only make sense with big treatment plans
http://www.imtj.co.uk/news/?entryid82=437565

That's interesting: "Increased competition in the UK has driven down the price of dental implants, which are now available from as little as £995." Very good news, obviously foreign competition is having an effect on UK prices, as it should. At £995 for an implant I doubt many people would bother travelling abroad. Even I might lose my excuse for a holiday

brook2jack

The warning here if you read the article is this is using cheaper implants eg from Israel. The difficulty may be in getting replacement parts and the kit in future years if they are discontinued. This doesn't happen with the established premium brands.

zagfles

brook2jack wrote: »

The warning here if you read the article is this is using cheaper implants eg from Israel. The difficulty may be in getting replacement parts and the kit in future years if they are discontinued. This doesn't happen with the established premium brands.

Well if the cheaper impants work as well, who's to say the more expensive ones won't become obsolete?

brook2jack

There are 81 different implant manufacturers with at least 240 different implant designs. Once placed it can be impossible to identify who the manufacturer is or what design it is.

All the tools, super structures , etc are custom made for each implant system , so if a system is discontinued or not well known it can be impossible to maintain and replace bits.

This is why most implantologists will stick to two or three well known systems as many of the less well known implants are discontinued due to problems in design or low volumes of sales.

AbbieCadabra

what happens with regards to long term care in the UK if you move away from the dental practice where you had implants done, would a new dentist take you on for after care?