Hanging a 30 kg mirror

pine77

The wall is the victorian wall that separates the terrace house next door from my own so assume it will be ok.

First question.

I want to hang the mirror horizontally. There are already brass mirror plates on the mirror but on the horizontal edges, not the vertical and I wondering if that will be a problem:



Second question.

What is the best way to hang this mirror. How big should the screws be going into the wall? How many?

Seeing as the back of the mirror has a section that comes out, the mirror wont ever sit flush. What should I use?



These?



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I have no idea what to do with this behemoth,, :mad::)

DirectDebacle

Four brackets one in each corner as per the photo. I would use 60x5 (2 3/8th x 10) screws and brown plugs.

Fit spacers under the brackets the same thickness as the depth of the protruding back panel (use plywood, hardboard or other suitable material). You can either fit to the wall as is and it will be proud or chase out the area of the back for a flush fit. This may well be tricky if it is the original (lime) plaster or has blown. Up to you how much trouble you want to go to. Main thing is to ensure it is firmly fixed to the brickwork as it is quite a hefty item.

ETA.
For a flush fit to the wall an alternative to chasing out plaster is to remove the brackets and plant timber strips to the rear of the frame then re-attach the brackets. You will probably want to stain the new timber to blend in with the original.

pine77

Thanks for advice DD.

Do you believe that 3 of these spaced equally over the top of the wall could do the job?



With these attached to the mirror..

Ruski

Well OTT.


Use the mirror hangers that you have - just reposition them to the rear protruding part of the mirror back along the top edge.


2x No. 8 x 2" in the (solid!) wall (same distance apart as the hangers on the rear of the mirror you've just repositioned) and drop the hangers over the screw heads.


HTH


Russ

pine77

Russ this was my first port of call. The problem is the protruding wooden rear part of the mirror, although wood, is only 2cm deep and weak. It is simply there to hold the mirror in place and is not strong enough imo.

Ruski

Yes, but it must overlap the 'heavier' frame - so screw through both??


Russ

pine77

OK Russ I see what you saying. I may have half an inch grace in that regard to attach the brackets.

You think just 3 brackets along the top of the protruding part will be adequate to hang it securely?

You don't think it will start pulling apart the protruding strut? The current srews in the brackets are 2.5cm long, so in theory seeing as the protruding part is just under 1cm out from the main frame, I can go for 3.5cm screws?

DirectDebacle

Be careful if you are screwing into the back panel. If it is rebated into the frame then there may be very little distance from the edge of the panel to the edge of the mirror glass underneath. If your screws touch the glass then at least they will probably scratch the silvering or at worst crack/break the glass.

Reece_

I'd just fit a couple of keyhole brackets to the main frame of the mirror, you can account for the protruding back by cranking out the screws you put in the wall.

pine77

Reece_ wrote: »

I'd just fit a couple of keyhole brackets to the main frame of the mirror, you can account for the protruding back by cranking out the screws you put in the wall.

Meaning there will be a little gap between the wall and where the screw hangs the bracket correct? A little exposed screw section correct?

Reece_

yes correct, you'd leave the screw out by 20mm or whatever the back piece protrudes by, if you were to mount the brackets close in near that back piece you'll never really notice the screws.