Infrared Radiant Heating Panels

lstar337

long_pockets wrote: »

Still air quality that I'm interested in

Then why not spend your money on a decent ventilation system with heat recovery?

At least you 'know' it will improve air quality. The claims you are posting are just sale techniques used because they are hard for a user to prove/disprove.

long_pockets

Well we are a very cynical bunch aren't we!

Just because some one is interested to find something out then we all assume that there must be a sinister underlying reason!

P'haps, I am genuinely keen to know everyone's thoughts?

I have to say after reading all of the comments, I am very disappointed.

I am going to buy a couple and rip them to pieces to find out why they cost so much (it's what I do for a living) and were the wizard is that works them, after all you are quite right it is just a heater and yes there's loads of BS on the internet.

Open minds take the world forwards, I make a very good living using my open mind.

Can anyone offer anything constructive (and please only if you've used these heaters) for and against?

I will post again once I have reversed engineered a few of these and worked out construction, BOM costs etc...

I like you, think, my mother-in-law has been ripped off, but before I get the sales guy into court I need to do my homework, believe me money is no object to sue this guy and the company he works for, remember in life you never know who you are talking to or ripping off!

So if you can offer me any constructive personal experiences I would appreciate your comments.

fishybusiness

P'haps, I am genuinely keen to know everyone's thoughts?

You have them, as diverse as they may be.

I will post again once I have reversed engineered a few of these and worked out construction, BOM costs etc...

Think you missed the boat on this one, China has it in the bag!

lstar337

long_pockets wrote: »

Well we are a very cynical bunch aren't we!

Just because some one is interested to find something out then we all assume that there must be a sinister underlying reason!

P'haps, I am genuinely keen to know everyone's thoughts?

I have to say after reading all of the comments, I am very disappointed.

I am going to buy a couple and rip them to pieces to find out why they cost so much (it's what I do for a living) and were the wizard is that works them, after all you are quite right it is just a heater and yes there's loads of BS on the internet.

Open minds take the world forwards, I make a very good living using my open mind.

Can anyone offer anything constructive (and please only if you've used these heaters) for and against?

I will post again once I have reversed engineered a few of these and worked out construction, BOM costs etc...

I like you, think, my mother-in-law has been ripped off, but before I get the sales guy into court I need to do my homework, believe me money is no object to sue this guy and the company he works for, remember in life you never know who you are talking to or ripping off!

So if you can offer me any constructive personal experiences I would appreciate your comments.

Well the main difference between us is that I don't have the 'drive' that you have. I feel I know all I need to about these devices without buying and reverse engineering them. I may be wrong, but I don't care enough to bother finding out.

Most people come here for money saving advice so I always skew toward this. If you don't care about cost and just want a play, then I fully understand that! As an engineer myself, it's something I also enjoy.

Good luck with it.

long_pockets

lstar337 wrote: »

Well the main difference between us is that I don't have the 'drive' that you have. I feel I know all I need to about these devices without buying and reverse engineering them. I may be wrong, but I don't care enough to bother finding out.

Most people come here for money saving advice so I always skew toward this. If you don't care about cost and just want a play, then I fully understand that! As an engineer myself, it's something I also enjoy.

Good luck with it.

Thanks Istar337, I'm also wondering if just like a storage heater, instead of putting the energy into the self contained brick that can only hold so much , that if I put the energy into a bigger brick (the whole room) maybe there's a benefit from being able to "charge up" the room from cheap electricity and save money by being able to store more, it's a theory and a bit like charging batteries from solar the more capacity the more you can store.

Be a couple of weeks before I get the panels from China (I ordered 10 as samples from a supplier) with shipping they work out at 60 USD each so not that expensive, my research suggests that these are the same as most guy's are selling on the net for 230GBP.

I'll post again once I've had a "play".

lstar337

long_pockets wrote: »

Thanks Istar337, I'm also wondering if just like a storage heater, instead of putting the energy into the self contained brick that can only hold so much , that if I put the energy into a bigger brick (the whole room) maybe there's a benefit from being able to "charge up" the room from cheap electricity and save money by being able to store more, it's a theory and a bit like charging batteries from solar the more capacity the more you can store.

Yes the more you can store the better!

In modern low impact buildings they sometimes build a large concrete thermal store in a south facing atrium that heats up during the day using the sun, and releases at night. In winter it has the opposite effect, regulating the house temperature.

In my house there is a similar system. Our south facing lounge has large patio doors and windows which allow the sun to heat up our concrete floor, which radiates heat back in the evening. It is very effective.

Richie-from-the-Boro

long_pockets wrote: »

Well we are a very cynical bunch aren't we!

Just because some one is interested to find something out then we all assume that there must be a sinister underlying reason!

P'haps, I am genuinely keen to know everyone's thoughts?

I have to say after reading all of the comments, I am very disappointed.

I am going to buy a couple and rip them to pieces to find out why they cost so much (it's what I do for a living) and were the wizard is that works them, after all you are quite right it is just a heater and yes there's loads of BS on the internet.

Open minds take the world forwards, I make a very good living using my open mind.

Can anyone offer anything constructive (and please only if you've used these heaters) for and against?

I will post again once I have reversed engineered a few of these and worked out construction, BOM costs etc...

I like you, think, my mother-in-law has been ripped off, but before I get the sales guy into court I need to do my homework, believe me money is no object to sue this guy and the company he works for, remember in life you never know who you are talking to or ripping off!

So if you can offer me any constructive personal experiences I would appreciate your comments.

I've always said application specific IR is good, domestic use IR is not proven other than an an already 'uber' energy efficient dwelling in the UK with our average housing stock & climate. You don't need to rip them to pieces, in resistive heating terms a kW is a kW .. .. the truth is in the chipset they use, and they all use the same chipset @ 50 Hz.

Robwiz

long_pockets wrote: »

Thanks Istar337, I'm also wondering if just like a storage heater, instead of putting the energy into the self contained brick that can only hold so much , that if I put the energy into a bigger brick (the whole room) maybe there's a benefit from being able to "charge up" the room from cheap electricity and save money by being able to store more, it's a theory and a bit like charging batteries from solar the more capacity the more you can store.

Be a couple of weeks before I get the panels from China (I ordered 10 as samples from a supplier) with shipping they work out at 60 USD each so not that expensive, my research suggests that these are the same as most guy's are selling on the net for 230GBP.

I'll post again once I've had a "play".

You could put all the heat energy into your whole room, however, as with a night storage heater you would not only have to control the rate at which the heat is given up but also where the heat flows to – next room/next door/outside?