Moving out at 16

davidh71

My 16 year old daughter has a number of issues which result in her getting PIP. My wife is currently her appointee, and without going into any great details, our daughter has become increasingly angry and distant from us and now wants to move out. Whether she will be capable of managing on her own or even whether she should be living alone are debateable, at best.

My question is what would happen to her Pip claim if she did move out? My wife would obviously no longer be able to be the appointee, so would the claim have to stop and daughter would have to re-apply? Or can you remove the appointee and continue the existing claim without an appointee on it?

nannytone_2

even if your daughter moves out, there is nothing to stop your wife being her appointee.... especially if you don't think your daughter will be able to manage her financial affairs.
sometimes you have to let your kids fall flat on their face for them to realise what life is about.
it must be a nightmare for you all at the moment, but hold tight and hopefully it will all come right in the end.

and no ... it wouldn't mean a reclaim ... just that your daughter would be in control of her own finances
do you have a social worker?
someone to mediate may nbe a good idea

davidh71

Thank you. What if my daughter did not want my wife to continue to be her appointee? Things are very strained at the moment and this could well be the case. (We are to blame for everything and all will be well in the world without us! - or more likely she will fall flat on her face!)

TELLIT01

As your daughter is only 16 she is still minor and she can't directly make the decision as to whether her mother continues as appointee or not. Social services would have to get involved and look at estrangement i.e. no contact with or support from parents or any person acting in the place of parents.

Penny-Pincher!!

Your daughter just needs an appropriate adult which can be anyone over the age of 18. If you're not getting on, then she would either be better off with another family member possibly or social services?

If she has MH issues, she should have a minor CPN or person to go to in case of emergency like this. Your DD as a minor NEEDS to be priority!

Is the PIP a new claim after she turned 16, or is it till she's 18?

If she moved out, you would stop receiving CB, CTC and probably her PIP and any carers you may get for her. If you're receiving IS, then this would stop also.

Is she still at school? May be worth her talking to someone there.

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nannytone_2

Penny-Pincher!! wrote: »

Your daughter just needs an appropriate adult which can be anyone over the age of 18. If you're not getting on, then she would either be better off with another family member possibly or social services?

If she has MH issues, she should have a minor CPN or person to go to in case of emergency like this. Your DD as a minor NEEDS to be priority!

Is the PIP a new claim after she turned 16, or is it till she's 18?

If she moved out, you would stop receiving CB, CTC and probably her PIP and any carers you may get for her. If you're receiving IS, then this would stop also.

Is she still at school? May be worth her talking to someone there.

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why wold you think her PIP would stop?
it isn't awarded to a household, but to an individual.
as long as her needs haven't changed there would be no reason at all for it to stop

GlasweJen

The individual who was awarded the PIP will be the person who has to benefit from it, not their former household.

As it's PIP and not DLA we know this young person is already 16 and is quite entitled to move out and take her benefits with her.

Get onto social services and ask for support, being disabled doesn't mean your daughter needs to stay with you forever. Maybe you all just need a bit of space. Last thing you want to do is keep the PIP going to your wife to let your daughter "fall on her face" it's her money for her disability and not only would it be an abuse of a disabled person it would also totally ruin any relationship you have with her as you'd essentially be stealing her money.

nannytone_2

i don't think that the OP is suggesting that he and his wife would with hold the PIP.
and yes, even disabled young people need to become independent, but 16 is awfully young for any child to move out ( i know because i moved out weeks after my 17th birthday and it was a total shock )

Penny-Pincher!!

nannytone wrote: »

why wold you think her PIP would stop?
it isn't awarded to a household, but to an individual.
as long as her needs haven't changed there would be no reason at all for it to stop

Nannytone.....I didn't mean her PIP would stop, but her mum if SHE's receiving it could stop...if that makes sense.

davidh71

Well how judgmental some of you are! If you bothered to read the original post properly then at no point does it say that we want to or currently do keep our daughters money! It is her money, but we do currently help her to manage it and do not give it to her in one lump sum when each payment is made. The question was purely what would happen to the claim if our daughter moves out, baring in mind my wife is her appointee at present and our daughter may not want this to continue because she thinks she can manage on her own. When our daughter turned 16 it was not automatic for my wife to carry on being her appointee - somebody came out to visit, assessed the situation, and agreed that given our daughters problems this was the best course of action. Ask a simple question and get attacked by the forum police!!!

redvision95

claim would carry on but she would have control of the money.
try mediation first though, find out why shes angry etc trust me moving out at 16 is not easy and it comes as a huge shock with or without help.