Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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Leanne1812 wrote: »

There is some merit to what you say as obviously if we vote in our droves and return them as a majority gov then were saying we feel they are the best option. What you have to remember their goal is independence and it has to be a factor that will rear its head somewhere down the line.

It will only rear it's head if others bury theirs.

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The point of posting this is not so much about pointing out that Salmond is allegedly engaging in a bit of tax avoidance because many people do this, but to wonder if the imminent devolution of income tax returns for income tax from the UK to Scotland will influence either his behaviour or Scots perception of it.

How Alex Salmond avoids paying Income Tax to Scotland
http://scotsagainstindependence.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/how-alex-salmond-avoids-paying-income.html

skintmacflint

Leanne1812 wrote: »

The EU ref, if it's a leave vote, will be a difficult one to resolve if Scots vote to stay don't you think?

Depends on the numbers. May be closer than you anticipate.


How do you think it would sit with scots if the SNP feel they have been given a mandate but Westminster refuse to grant another referendum?

To be honest , couldn't care less how it sits. We had a legally binding referendum, and decision. Was no 2nd chance for No voters, if the decision had been Yes..

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

And just like my post is purely my opinion, the same goes for yours.

You cannot state with any authority or knowledge what the future of the Union will be.

No but I can say with certainty what was agreed. The referendum was a once in a generation or lifetime event, not something that gets rerun each time the Tories gain a majority or as a result of transient shifts in support as measured by flawed polls.

Leanne1812

skintmacflint wrote: »

To be honest , couldn't care less how it sits. We had a legally binding referendum, and decision. Was no 2nd chance for No voters, if the decision had been Yes..

I hear you skint but look at the rise of the SNP since the referendum. No one could foresee how our political landscape would change.

I'm trying to put myself in your shoes and I'd probably feel the same as you but the fact is we are where we are and if Scotland keeps the SNP in power I'm pretty sure another ref will be on the agenda in the next few years.

Leanne1812

Generali wrote: »

No but I can say with certainty what was agreed. The referendum was a once in a generation or lifetime event, not something that gets rerun each time the Tories gain a majority or as a result of transient shifts in support as measured by flawed polls.

I'll repeat what I just said to skint. No one could foresee this change and if we keep the SNP in power, in my opinion, we are effectively giving them a mandate for another referendum ( all in good time )

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

I'll repeat what I just said to skint. No one could foresee this change and if we keep the SNP in power, in my opinion, we are effectively giving them a mandate for another referendum ( all in good time )

No you're not.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Leanne1812 wrote: »

if we keep the SNP in power, in my opinion, we are effectively giving them a mandate for another referendum ( all in good time )

Odd...

Because Sturgeon has explicitly courted No voters saying that voting for the SNP is not a mandate for another referendum. (Unless something big changes)

So are you wrong or is she wrong?

Generali

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Odd...

Because Sturgeon has explicitly courted No voters saying that voting for the SNP is not a mandate for another referendum. (Unless something big changes)

So are you wrong or is she wrong?

Given the SNP's approach to pretty much all negotiation, voting for the SNP is not a mandate for a referendum unless they change their minds.

Leanne1812

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Odd...

Because Sturgeon has explicitly courted No voters saying that voting for the SNP is not a mandate for another referendum. (Unless something big changes)

So are you wrong or is she wrong?

It's only my belief, I think I've stated that. I don't think considering all the media attention anyone would think that a vote for the SNP may not somewhere down the line lead to another referendum.

Do you think staunch unionists would consider voting SNP? I don't. Which leads me to believe that those who do are either Yes or not averse to considering independence if it comes around again.

I'm not stating it will happen. It might never! But my point remains if we keep them in power it probably will.