Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

.string.

elantan wrote: »

https://www.sundaypost.com/inside-the-sunday-edition/flood-victims-in-scotland-will-get-1k-more-each-than-flood-hit-english/


Ohhh look it's not that hard to find really here's a second one and I ain't even looking hard ...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

elantan

Ahhh so that's what were doing when someone proves you wrong now ... cheers got it




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Aye that's no bad

elantan

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/10/david-cameron-parents-children-lessons?CMP=share_btn_tw



Ahhh the Tory answer to the named person .... as brought to you by the man that left his kid in the pub ...

Rinoa

elantan wrote: »

https://www.sundaypost.com/inside-the-sunday-edition/flood-victims-in-scotland-will-get-1k-more-each-than-flood-hit-english/


Ohhh look it's not that hard to find really here's a second one and I ain't even looking hard ...

When Scotland receives £1700 more per person than England it shouldn't be too difficult for the Scottish govt. to find £1500 for just a few flood victims.

Let's see how much they receive after independence.

.string.

elantan wrote: »

Ahhh so that's what were doing when someone proves you wrong now ... cheers got it




ŹZZZZZZZZ

Aye that's no bad

This is a bit like being savaged by a soggy butterfly in an echo chamber.

Get it into your head, elanten, that I simply don't care if one region gets more or less than another, it all depends, or should depend, on need balanced by resources.

Generali

dktreesea wrote: »

If Scotland is charged money for defence that is not directly spent in Scotland then by definition this is spent elsewhere in the UK and is a subsidy of spending elsewhere in the UK.


Any charges Westminster passed onto Scotland should reflect spending made directly in Scotland, employing Scottish people, for the non-devolved service. Westminster shouldn't be charging the ret of the UK for services without spending the equivalent of that amount in those countries.

So UK troops abroad, British embassies and trade agreement negotiations don't help the lives of Scots in your opinion.

It's ridiculous. You had a chance to vote to leave the UK and you blew it. As a result you are a part of the UK not a separate country so Scotland gets to help pay for some shared stuff like the military.

wotsthat

elantan wrote: »

https://www.sundaypost.com/inside-the-sunday-edition/flood-victims-in-scotland-will-get-1k-more-each-than-flood-hit-english/


Ohhh look it's not that hard to find really here's a second one and I ain't even looking hard ...

..and to the continued frustration of the Scottish nationalists the English shrug their shoulders and say so what?

elantan

.string. wrote: »

This is a bit like being savaged by a soggy butterfly in an echo chamber.

Get it into your head, elanten, that I simply don't care if one region gets more or less than another, it all depends, or should depend, on need balanced by resources.

And yet you cared enough to ask for proof

Not only that you went looking for it yourself .... that's deff the mark of a person that doesn't care that is

Shakethedisease

skintmacflint wrote: »

No I wasn't around then, but don't let that stop you posting misinformation on comments I'm supposed to have made then according to you. How very SNP ish of you.

As for wishful thinking, I was referring to your repeated insistence ( again how very SNP NLP of you) people would opt for Independence rather than see another Conservative governemnt.

Despite the fact Scotland has a devolved government with more powers coming, over most areas. Never enough for SNP, but no excuse for not using what they have.

Maybe Id be more persuaded if you could just persuade all your SNP voters to vote Yes as your mate on WOS suggested recently. Then SNP/Yes campaigners wouldn't need to trawl round the easy targets in the deprived housing estates misleading the people who will endure the hardships of Scotlands vainglorious Darien project part 2.

They will though...vote for Scottish independence rather than UK Conservative governments... I wasn't looking to persuade you though don't worry. Labour has spent decades, most especially since Thatcher, totally trashing the Tories in Scotland. Then devolution to stop the rise of the SNP in the 90's. I guess there are political consequences to everything. One of them in the next few years, may be older Scottish voters having to decide which is worse. I wouldn't be banking on a big shout out of support for the union in that case.

Some of the old Labour 'high heid yins' ( one for Generali, because that really is how I would describe him in real life and I know he'll enjoy it )... are already going 'public'.

Former Labour first minister Henry McLeish has declared he will back Scottish independence if the United Kingdom votes to leave Europe against Scotland's wishes.
Mr McLeish said Brexit would spark a "constitutional crisis" resulting in the break-up of Britain if a Scottish majority vote to stay in the European Union is at odds with the rest of the country.
Speaking to The Sunday Times newspaper, he said the Conservatives and the SNP were both a threat to the union in different ways.

He said: "As far as the EU is concerned the Conservatives are playing with constitutional fire. If the UK votes to leave the EU and Scotland votes to stay in, then there would be a constitutional crisis.
"As a passionate European, I would not wish to be part of the UK and would anticipate a new Scottish referendum which would take Scotland out of the UK to become a new member of the EU."

He added: "If Scotland votes to stay in and we are taken out by English votes then quite frankly I'd want to be part of an independent Scotland who in turn was a new member of the European Union."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14194315.Henry_McLeish__I_will_back_Scottish_independence_if_UK_leave_EU_against_Scotland_s_wishes/?ref=rss


He's always been a bit wavery on the subject. But it's weird to see a former Labour First Minister just coming out with possible 'conditional' independence support. Changed days eh ?

ps It's a bit sad that you don't like to see poorer people from deprived housing estates getting out and voting on issues that affect them as much as anyone else. But given your current voting preferences, hardly a surprise.

Shakethedisease

Tromking wrote: »

Nope.
Voting for the SNP is being normalised and nothing more than that can be claimed at this stage, certainly not independence.

No, it really is independence. The SNP are simply the vehicle and the means. There are a lot of votes going to the SNP in May, from those who don't agree with much of what they stand for ( see polls). But will vote for them realising that an SNP majority is the only means by which to call another independence referendum. Apart from Labour and the Tories... every single other ( smaller ) left leaning party in Scotland is for independence. There will be a lot of 'lending votes' even though the leaders of the smaller parties despair at the thought. The time for smaller parties to gain ground is after independence. It's a widely held view, as far as I can asertain.