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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • CLAPTON
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    elantan wrote: »
    Ohhh but your forgetting were better together ... we pool and share our resources remember . So that would be Scotland paying 0.8% and rUK 92% ;)

    it seemed that SNP were happy (well desperate) to share with the other countries of the EU but not with their nearest neighbour
  • Generali
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    elantan wrote: »
    I would agree a lot of the oil I think will remain untapped ...

    To go off topic for a moment it's what makes the Corbyn plan to reopen the mines utterly idiotic. Not only are the mines uneconomic they also will have to be closed down again because to burn the coal will mean an unacceptable degree of warming.

    I suspect that Scotland will have to diversify away from oil drilling pretty quickly. At current prices you simply can't drill in the North Sea for the most part and those US drillers are simply getting better and better at getting more oil out of the ground per rig at lower and lower prices. I guess the question is, would the Scottish economy be better able to diversify within or without the Union?
  • Ruk will still be in EU,so resources will still be shared,it's just Scotland would be Independent
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  • elantan
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    edited 26 October 2015 at 12:10PM
    Generali wrote: »
    To go off topic for a moment it's what makes the Corbyn plan to reopen the mines utterly idiotic. Not only are the mines uneconomic they also will have to be closed down again because to burn the coal will mean an unacceptable degree of warming.

    I suspect that Scotland will have to diversify away from oil drilling pretty quickly. At current prices you simply can't drill in the North Sea for the most part and those US drillers are simply getting better and better at getting more oil out of the ground per rig at lower and lower prices. I guess the question is, would the Scottish economy be better able to diversify within or without the Union?


    I think you bring up a valid point ... we should not Base our whole economy on oil ... I spose it's a good job we don't really isn't it

    But yes we do need to diversify more ... I spose that's one of the reasons I am also against the fracking ... we need to keep our water supplies as clean as possible as that will help the food and drink Industry

    I also support more renewable but agree land reform needs sorted in order to make that work better ...

    We have quite a good science reputation and some great graphics as well as filming etc ... so we have some good stuff but ( god am gonna sound like Sturgeon here sorry) there's room for improvement most deff


    As for diversifying within the union etc ... I spose that's one of those things only time will really tell ... but I do believe so ... I think all people can be inventive and Rise to challenges so I have no reason to believe Scotland will be any different from anyone else
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  • elantan
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    black_taxi wrote: »
    water is worth its weight in gold


    I believe there is a good chance water will be the new oil ... only worth more
  • .string.
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    elantan wrote: »
    Ohhh but your forgetting were better together ... we pool and share our resources remember . So that would be Scotland paying 0.8% and rUK 92% ;)

    No I did not forget that. It was why I wrote Natland (the fantasy separated land that the SNP aspires to) and not Scotland which, as you rightly point out is better together where indeed Scotland would benefit from sharing those costs.
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  • elantan
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    elantan wrote: »
    I think you bring up a valid point ... we should not Base our whole economy on oil ... I spose it's a good job we don't really isn't it

    But yes we do need to diversify more ... I spose that's one of the reasons I am also against the fracking ... we need to keep our water supplies as clean as possible as that will help the food and drink Industry

    I also support more renewable but agree land reform needs sorted in order to make that work better ...

    We have quite a good science reputation and some great graphics as well as filming etc ... so we have some good stuff but ( god am gonna sound like Sturgeon here sorry) there's room for improvement most deff


    As for diversifying within the union etc ... I spose that's one of those things only time will really tell ... but I do believe so ... I think all people can be inventive and Rise to challenges so I have no reason to believe Scotland will be any different from anyone else


    How do you think the rUK will manage without Scotland Generali ?
  • elantan
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    .string. wrote: »
    No I did not forget that. It was why I wrote Natland (the fantasy separated land that the SNP aspires to) and not Scotland which, as you rightly point out is better together where indeed Scotland would benefit from sharing those costs.



    See I thought you meant Britnat land which it appears you like :)

    Easy mistake to make sorry
  • Generali
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    elantan wrote: »
    I think you bring up a valid point ... we should not Base our whole economy on oil ... I spose it's a good job we don't really isn't it

    But yes we do need to diversify more ... I spose that's one of the reasons I am also against the fracking ... we need to keep our water supplies as clean as possible as that will help the food and drink Industry

    I also support more renewable but agree land reform needs sorted in order to make that work better ...

    We have quite a good science reputation and some great graphics as well as filming etc ... so we have some good stuff but ( god am gonna sound like Sturgeon here sorry) there's room for improvement most deff


    As for diversifying within the union etc ... I spose that's one of those things only time will really tell ... but I do believe so ... I think all people can be inventive and Rise to challenges so I have no reason to believe Scotland will be any different from anyone else

    Please don't think I'm suggesting that the Scottish economy is oil and little else, it isn't and I wouldn't say it is. Banking and manufacturing, I think I'm right in saying, are far larger sectors than oil. As is the case in most developed economies, consumption of services via the retail and hospitality sectors is by far the greatest part of the economy.
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