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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Right, so in an independent Scotland, the Government wouldn't help the oil industry ? Dear me.. :D Osborne near crippled it with his tax hikes a few years back.. And 'Scottish needs' ? The revenues go elsewhere. Why is UK government support for gas development a 'Scottish need' ?
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    Yep, local needs.

    The oil and gas industry sustains a large number of high quality jobs. I'm sure Hamish knows just how important this is to the local economy in that part of the world.

    Osborne did the right thing in the budget earlier this year, or would you have rather he did nothing?

    Not everything has a hidden political agenda. Sometimes even Tories do things for what they believe are the right reasons.
  • Chadsman
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    edited 1 September 2015 at 7:43AM
    Yes, yes.. Scotland is doomed. England and rUK will be juuuuust fine. I know this story too. :)

    You should probably look up a few things, and make your own mind up. See both sides of the argument and take it from there. The problem with this sort of thing is that it's so one-sided when it comes to reportage. You'll rarely 'see' any evidence unless you really look for it. And the places you tend to find the other side of the coin... are places that are generally instantly dismissed as 'loony tunes' for going against the grain of what's on the front pages.

    I'm not really sure what else I can say.
    I have tried looking at both sides by reading numerous articles, contacting the SNP and posting on here and other fora but no one has ever given me an objective reason why currency union is in the best interests of iScotland and a price worth paying for rUK.

    The best answer anyone has offered is that it would minimize change. IMHO the needs of iScotland would eventually diverge from the needs of rUK. One thing the current problems of the Eurozone shows is that currency union without fiscal union cannot work because governments have different policies- ultimately economies always diverge.

    If as you seem to be suggesting the benefits of a currency union outweigh the costs for rUK really are that obvious then post a link.
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  • Chadsman
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    edited 1 September 2015 at 12:27PM
    As no one has given an objective reason why a currency union between iScotland and rUK would be so great for both sides can someone answer this: if currency union really is so great why should iScotland not join the Euro?
    God save the King!
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  • Tromking
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    Chadsman wrote: »
    As no one has an objective reason why a currency union between iScotland and rUK would be so great for both sides can someone answer this: if currency union really is so great why should iScotland not join the Euro?

    Why not indeed.
    The vision the SNP have for Scotland is so muddled. Westminster is such a brake on Scottish aspirations that they keep the pound, Europe is a good idea yet they reject the currency. As we say in England, it's as if they don't whether their backsides are bored or punched!
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  • Generali
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    Tromking wrote: »
    As we say in England, it's as if they don't whether their backsides are bored or punched!

    Do we? I honestly have never heard that phrase.
  • Tromking
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    Generali wrote: »
    Do we? I honestly have never heard that phrase.

    You must mix in more polite circles than me Generali. 😀
    It might be a Cornish thing.
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  • Generali
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    Tromking wrote: »
    You must mix in more polite circles than me Generali. 😀

    Living in Australia I sincerely doubt it!!!

    Tromking wrote: »
    It might be a Cornish thing.

    Probably. The last indigenous Briton I met that I truly struggled to understand was Cornish. That was in Paul, where the last Cornish monoglot was (supposedly) buried.
  • Leanne1812
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    Chadsman wrote: »
    As no one has given an objective reason why a currency union between iScotland and rUK would be so great for both sides can someone answer this: if currency union really is so great why should iScotland not join the Euro?

    What is the point of your question? Last year pre-ref if was relevant but not now......
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    What is the point of [STRIKE]your question[/STRIKE] this thread ? Last year pre-ref [STRIKE]if[/STRIKE] it was relevant but not now......

    Fixt that for you :D
  • Tromking
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    Generali wrote: »
    Probably. The last indigenous Briton I met that I truly struggled to understand was Cornish. That was in Paul, where the last Cornish monoglot was (supposedly) buried.

    Yep, I have relatives that even with my attuned ear I struggle to understand sometimes.
    I had to google old Dolly of Paul, not surprised though as those fisher types down West can be a tad backward.😀
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