Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Mistermeaner

Give them independence. Invade them. Enslave them. Dynamite Ben Nevis until scarfell is higher.

kabayiri

Generali wrote: »

More fool Corbyn then.

The SNP will do exactly what they did last time. Extract a referendum as the price for joining a coalition and vote down the Government as soon as the referendum is lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_vote_of_no_confidence_in_the_government_of_James_Callaghan
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That's a great political tactical play, and the one thing we have learnt from the SNP is that they are political animals first and foremost.

kabayiri

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

So where does this leave the Wealth fund promised by Mr Salmond during the indy ref?

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And you ( and Generali it seems ) don't understand that not 'working with the SNP', probably for the next decade or so ( Labour was voted for, despite everything, and Tory govts, for several decades regardless )... is not working with Scotland and it's representatives. You also have no idea how to 'measure' the Union breakup. Because you don't have any more of a crystal ball than I do. Lets not pretend you have.

I don't try and predict Labour fortunes because frankly I couldn't care less about Labour.

They are stuck though. They claim to be pro-Union, but they need the voting support offered by a separatist party.

They will end up trying to sell a contradiction to the electorate if they enter some kind of alliance.

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

So where does this leave the Wealth fund promised by Mr Salmond during the indy ref?

It's as fictitious as every other policy based on the Scottish state being even remotely solvent.

.string.

Generali wrote: »

It's as fictitious as every other policy based on the Scottish state being even remotely solvent.

Actually there are two policies, one is Austerity Max, to bring Scotland to an economy and standard of living more in line with income, and then there is the policy encapsulated in the thread title, and which the SNP are trying to pursue at the moment.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And you ( and Generali it seems ) don't understand that not 'working with the SNP', probably for the next decade or so ( Labour was voted for, despite everything, and Tory govts, for several decades regardless )... is not working with Scotland and it's representatives. You also have no idea how to 'measure' the Union breakup. Because you don't have any more of a crystal ball than I do. Lets not pretend you have.

And conversely you presumably understand that "locking the Tories out of Downing Street" did not go down well in England.

Don't be so hypocritical, Shakey. Because of their own nasty intentions, the SNP are getting the sauce they intended to dish out themselves and it serves them right.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Oh dear....

FIRST Minister Nicola Sturgeon has known for over a month about allegations that Police Scotland unlawfully used its spying powers in a bid to identify journalists’ sources.

The Scottish Government had the breach confirmed by the single force before a watchdog produced its report into illegal snooping on reporters.

Labour has called on the First Minister to "come clean" over the Scottish Government's involvement regarding allegations that Police Scotland has been involved in illegal spying on journalists

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/13583722.Revealed__government_knew_of_police_spy_allegations/?ref=ebln

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

So where does this leave the Wealth fund promised by Mr Salmond during the indy ref?

No idea. You should've taken heed of chewmylegoff's post. We're nearly a year on from anything Alex Salmond promised during the ref. This is just usual 'black hole' stuff. It's been going on for so long now in newspaper headlines.. no-one takes any notice anymore.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

And conversely you presumably understand that "locking the Tories out of Downing Street" did not go down well in England.

Don't be so hypocritical, Shakey. Because of their own nasty intentions, the SNP are getting the sauce they intended to dish out themselves and it serves them right.

Nah, the SNP had little to do with the Tory win. That was down to UKIPers coming home. As it was always likely.

The most interesting contribution came from a team at the University of Manchester who made two absolutely key findings from the extremely large and detailed British Election Study of the “short campaign” period, involving tens of thousands of voters...

“One of the things we find loud and clear in our data is that UKIP voters returned to the Conservative Party in constituencies in which they could stop a Labour or a Liberal Democrat gain or a hold.”

And the SNP hasn't been 'locked out of Westminster'.. No 10 was never possible anyway. And for your info I'm quite hoping that that the SNP DO get ignored and dismissed as Generali et al keep going on about. Suits the SNP just lovely. Proves exactly what they've been saying all along about Scottish MP's being ignored at Westminster. And for sure, is certainly bumping up those polling numbers for next May amazingly well. 60% plus now isn't it for the Scottish General Election ?

You've just gotten things plain wrong string. Unfortunately you have no clue how the SNP got where they are. So resort to nonsense about 'hypocrites' and 'nasty people'. You'll have to just a little better than that to explain things. Anything else is just lazy.

Why do you think Scottish and resident voters in Scotland seem to like the SNP so much these days ? What is it, in your own opinion, that drives the support <

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direct question.