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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Shakethedisease
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    But Cameron-baby gets first crack. At least that's how it was presented on Daily Politics.

    Lib Dems would jump on board again. It worked last time. My local MP brokered the last deal and he said that 90% of the policies were similar anyway.

    Labour and Cons share quite a lot when it comes down to it. Since Blair they have been fairly pro-business. Both parties are happy to use PFI, and privatisation continues. New Labour didn't renationalise the energy companies did they?

    It's the SNPs and the Greens who represent the wider extremes. UKIP are just Torys with a disliking of Forrinnerrs.

    Yes, Cameron gets first go.. but Tories and Lib Dems ( on current polling ) won't have the numbers to make it work. That's where the problem lies. Labour will have much more in the way of options to play with. Though at the moment they are, for obvious reasons playing the SNP one down. Have a play with the numbers and see what you come up with ?
    Robert_Peston_CF076892.flat_bigger.jpgRobert PestonVerified account ‏@Peston

    clever, troubling BBC game: shows LibDem collapse & SNP surge make it hard for Lab or Tory to lead strong coalition
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32336071
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Shakethedisease wrote: »
    I quite liked Runrig.. :)

    Saw them live couple of years ago, great show.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Shakethedisease wrote: »
    policies.

    Here's one....

    Try to justify it.

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    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    edited 18 April 2015 at 2:52AM
    The SNP record:

    -Teachers: down

    -A&E waiting times: up

    -Unemployment: rising

    -Police: armed

    -Children: State Guardian

    -College places: cut

    That record is broken, time for a new one....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Leanne1812
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    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    The SNP record:

    -Teachers: down
    -A&E waiting times: up
    -Unemployment: rising
    -Police: armed
    -Children: State Guardian
    -College places: cut

    That record is broken, time for a new one....

    Yet the polls all seem to be quite consistent that we'll be voting for them in record numbers.

    It would seem the UK record is the broken one.......
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Yet the polls all seem to be quite consistent that we'll be voting for them in record numbers.

    Current polls have the SNP somewhere around 48% of the vote.

    Given that 50% of people have an IQ of less than 100, that's not entirely surprising.... ;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Generali
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Yet the polls all seem to be quite consistent that we'll be voting for them in record numbers.

    It would seem the UK record is the broken one.......

    I do wonder for how much longer the Scottish people can be suckered. At some point a unionist pary will deliver FFA to the SNP at which point they are FUBAR'd.
  • Shakethedisease
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    Generali wrote: »
    I do wonder for how much longer the Scottish people can be suckered. At some point a unionist pary will deliver FFA to the SNP at which point they are FUBAR'd.

    Sigh.. if all else fails. Accuse the electorate of being stupid. Do folk like Leanne and I really appear too thick to you to know what we are voting for ? On the contrary, I'd say the Scottish electorate is probably far more engaged with politics and it's consequences than other areas of the UK at the moment. And are certainly more likely to vote this time round too.

    As for the FUBAR'd comment. Part of being politically engaged is seeing headlines like below shared widely to anyone and everyone with a Twitter or Facebook account... rather than conveniently 'omitted' by the likes of the Daily Record, or BBC Scotland as our only sources of info ( as would have happened in 2010 )...
    IMF warns UK on deficit reduction plans

    Britain’s next government will not be able to balance its books by the end of the decade, the International Monetary Fund has concluded in a blow to the rival political parties competing with ambitious spending pledges ahead of next month’s election.

    The organisation predicts that tax revenues will fall short of the Office for Budget Responsibility’s expectations and whoever wins the general election on May 7 will be forced to spend more than currently planned, leaving the books in the red.

    The assessment from Washington in the fund’s twice-yearly Fiscal Monitor highlights the difficulty of eliminating the £90bn deficit at a time of moderate growth and significant pressures on public spending.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9f242cd2-e337-11e4-aa97-00144feab7de.html#axzz3XbtpKmRI

    And wondering why Scotland is alone getting lectured on huge deficits and doom-laden consequences when the UK has a 90 billion pound one. We factor all these things in you know, and we can also read. Difficulties ahead for Scotland and the UK with deficits. FFA or status quo.. large deficits seem to be looming large for years yet anyway.

    ps didn't Brent crude rise today ? Volatile stuff. ;)
    (Reuters) - Crude futures fell from 2015 peaks in choppy trading on Friday, but Brent's 9.6 percent weekly gain was its biggest in more than five years as Middle East turmoil and signs of lower U.S. production lifted prices.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Shakethedisease wrote: »
    Sigh.. if all else fails. Accuse the electorate of being stupid. Do folk like Leanne and I really appear too thick to you to know what we are voting for ?

    Nah....

    You know full well the disaster that awaits Scotland with Indy or FFA.

    You just don't care.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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