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UKPC - Private Residental Land

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  • IMHO it's demised.

    I am not a lawyer (yet)
  • neil.net wrote: »
    There is a proviso that states:

    "The Management Comapny may impose/amend such regulations as it sees fit in line with good estate management (but so that any such regulations do not conflict with this lease)."
    Even if that allowed the management company to impose some kind of parking regime, I would contend that hiring a disreputable PPC (they are ALL disreputable) and allowing said PPC to make money out of scamming the residents is a very long way from good estate management.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,472 Forumite
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    If I choose to do nothing

    I would strongly advise you not to do nothing, UKPC have what they call an online 'appeal' section so an online/email response should be easy and cost you nothing.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • neil.net
    neil.net Posts: 175 Forumite
    Hi

    Thanks to all for the replies, I'm think the course of action should be to initially appeal based on my leasehold as above.

    There are a few other points I'd considered:
      £60 seems excessive, particularly as there are no costs to either management company or UKPC (warden would have been calling anyway)
    • Unfair on residents as they are parked there longer (e.g. all day) whilst "culprits" only park a for an hour or two to visit shops = more chance of residents being caught
    • UKPC consider this an agreed contract by virtue of parking, yet i have little choice = not enforcable contract

    Any thoughts, am I over thinking this?

    Thanks again
    Neil
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,472 Forumite
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    Something like this
    Dear UKPC...
    On the <date> one of your employees placed a parking charge notice <charge notice number/ref> upon my vehicle <REG number> whaich was parked in my own private space.
    This space is included in my leasehold, which mentions nothing about permits being displayed, and for your information I shall no longer be displaying a permit to park in a space to which i am lawfully entitled to.

    As such you must now cancel any demands for money, and Issue me with a full apology as well as assurances that you will not place any notice upon my vehicle again.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Half_way wrote: »
    Something like this
    Dear UKPC...
    On the <date> one of your employees placed a parking charge notice <charge notice number/ref> upon my vehicle <REG number> whaich was parked in my own private space.
    This space is included in my leasehold, which mentions nothing about permits being displayed, and for your information I shall no longer be displaying a permit to park in a space to which i am lawfully entitled to.

    As such you must now cancel any demands for money, and Issue me with a full apology as well as assurances that you will not place any notice upon my vehicle again - if you do so you will be committing trespass and I reserve the right to pursue this to the full extent of the law.
    Add the bold bit?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,350 Forumite
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    And also add:
    For the avoidance of any doubt, I will follow precisely and robustly the procedure recently adopted by Mr Roger L Davey.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    You might also like to give them Mr Davey's title.

    http://www.5pumpcourt.com/member/Roger_Davey
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,350 Forumite
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    You might also like to give them Mr Davey's title.

    http://www.5pumpcourt.com/member/Roger_Davey

    I'm sure they will remember Mr D, with or without! :D
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • neil.net
    neil.net Posts: 175 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2015 at 1:53PM
    Out of interest, is there a particular case for Mr Davey?


    Also, in regards to the appeal is it best to use their online facility or write a recorded letter? The reason I'm wondering is that I've read a few points on here and another forum that suggests if I enter into an appeal it's like agreeing to the rules but asking to be let off for some reason.


    Thanks
    Neil
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