When is business class not business class

PeacefulWaters

Mands wrote: »

Masses available.

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http://www.baredemptionfinder.com/search?source=lon&destination=bcn&number_of_passengers=1&class=economy

Mands

Got any in Club Europe?

Doshwaster

Most of the meals in BA Business Class (Club Europe) are decent but the "afternoon tea" offering of three tiny finger sandwiches is a disgrace (although the scones are nice). There have been many complaints about it on FlyerTalk. If flying Club during that part of the day I make sure I eat at the airport beforehand.

The problem with priority boarding is that on some flights almost half of the passengers qualify once you take into account those needing assistance, those with infants, One World elites and finally those in Club.

Priority Luggage has always been a joke. I'm a BA Silver Card holder and I never notice my bag coming off any quicker.

budgetflyer

PeacefulWaters wrote: »

Got any in Club Europe?

1 or 2 spread through out the year


From: London, United Kingdom
To: Barcelona, Spain
Price: 30000 return per person
Reward Flight Saver?: Yes
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Roger1

budgetflyer wrote: »

1 or 2 spread through out the year ...

[That was my response, but I needed to add more characters.]

andycris3107

There may be availability however having flown at least once a week for the last 18 months very often it has been impossible to book reward seats. I have amassed many thousands of miles over the years and managed to spend quite a lot in 2013, however in 2014 it was almost impossible to find anything (I tend to book around 1 to 2 months in advance).

On long haul it is equally impossible. I wanted a reward flight to hong Kong and was unable to book any for the whole of 2014.

I tend to use my miles sparingly as very often there is little benefit - for example a return to NYC in economy is 40k miles plus £370 whereas you can get a return on Norwegian for £320 all in or a return on BA for £420.

Caz3121

andycris3107 wrote: »

I tend to use my miles sparingly as very often there is little benefit - for example a return to NYC in economy is 40k miles plus £370 whereas you can get a return on Norwegian for £320 all in or a return on BA for £420.

Terrible terrible use of miles, long haul economy, as the taxes make up the majority of the ticket
For comparison though you need to compare the price of a flexible, refundable economy ticket which is £1,300 on Norwegian and £1,600 on BA. (the Avios booking can be refunded for a £35 fee the £320 and £420 fares will be non-refundable with the exception of APD)
If you are booking for popular routes/dates these can be snapped up when they are released 11 months out, although 2-3 days before flights can often see availability appear. Have a look at the BAredemptionfinder link by Mands and you can do a quick search (some routes such as west coast USA have been really bad in 2014 and although there are seats showing currently in 2015, flexibility with dates may be key

Mands

PeacefulWaters wrote: »

Got any in Club Europe?

Figured one way economy was far too scrolly as it was

Doshwaster wrote: »

Priority Luggage has always been a joke. I'm a BA Silver Card holder and I never notice my bag coming off any quicker.

Isn't Priority Luggage a OneWorld anomaly anyway? It's a listed OneWorld benefit but BA simply don't offer it, don't pay for it I think? They go through the motions with the orange priority tags but, AFAIK, they're not processed by the baggage handlers.

Mands

Mands

Caz3121 wrote: »

Terrible terrible use of miles, long haul economy, as the taxes make up the majority of the ticket

As Caz said, a rotten return on your miles. Far East & Oz are notoriously difficult to get redemption on but not impossible. Being flexible on dates/routes/cabins makes it much easier to snag something suitable.

Mands

Doshwaster

Mands wrote: »

Isn't Priority Luggage a OneWorld anomaly anyway? It's a listed OneWorld benefit but BA simply don't offer it, don't pay for it I think? They go through the motions with the orange priority tags but, AFAIK, they're not processed by the baggage handlers.

I don't know if that's true but my personal experience of standing around a baggage carousels (surely the most boring part of travelling - there has to be a better way), is that it makes no difference at all whether my case has a priority tag or not.

It's a shame really as just about everything all of the other benefits of the BAEC usually work really well, though there are still some annoying inconsistencies now and then.

sinizterguy

Mands wrote: »

Isn't Priority Luggage a OneWorld anomaly anyway? It's a listed OneWorld benefit but BA simply don't offer it, don't pay for it I think? They go through the motions with the orange priority tags but, AFAIK, they're not processed by the baggage handlers.

They definitely do not appear to be processed at Heathrow, but seem to do just fine in Sri Lanka.

All our baggage was piled up neatly before we even got to the luggage belt - And we had masses.