Professional help needed. NTC part 2 - IAS appeal, should I shouldn't? photo inc.

Ok so story cut short.

Paid and displayed. (ticket was clearly displayed at time of receiving parking fine notice on side window from Norwich Traffic Control)

I appealed with forum template and with additional paragraph stating I had paid and displayed and have evidence.

I did not send evidence in as advised not to.

Today I receive email... you guessed it... saying that they were not accepting my appeal... "Our records show that the notice was correctly issued as your vehicle was parked in in a manner liable to attract a parking charge."

They also attached there evidence which is a photo of their signage which seams to state 'if requested' you need to display a permit or id with a pay and display ticket.

- photo below, in reply section, of signage -

Realistically what should I do.

Appeal to IAS? using forum guide?
Cut my loses and pay?
Not do anything?

also should I write to NTC and request their evidence?

Many thanks,
Lucy
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  • edited 31 December 2014 at 11:56AM
    LucyLaLucyLa Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2014 at 11:56AM
    forum will not let me post photo for 'spamming' reasons because I am a 'new'ish member

    Please place together the two parts of the photo link below and copy into your browser address bar.

    http://

    i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/reephamhigh/ntc/ntc.png


    ,,, perhaps a established member of this forum could post the photo for me?

    thanks
  • edited 31 December 2014 at 12:11PM
    bazsterbazster Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2014 at 12:11PM
    http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/reephamhigh/ntc/ntc.png

    I'd ignore it if I were you. Come back if you ever receive a letter before claim or genuine court papers from NTC or its solicitors (this is very unlikely). Ignore blood-curdling but empty threats from debt collectors.
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  • hoohoohoohoo Forumite
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    Appeal to the IPC stating you displayed a ticket and enclose your proof.

    This sounds like an appeal the IPC will allow - they just dont like the legal appeals.
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    That's a BPA sign so a complaint to DVLA should be in order.
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  • The_DeepThe_Deep Forumite
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    I really do not think it matters with IAS appeals, the more that are rejected the more it will discredit their process. If PoPLA allow 40% of appeals, and IAS 5% you can show to a judge that a win by the red Cow Mob has little going for it.

    I would suggest that, rather than shun them, we all deliberately set to lose on valid legal argument, (but without going into too much detail), and common sense. I am sure that we will come out on top in the end.
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  • bazsterbazster Forumite
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    I really do not think it matters with IAS appeals, the more that are rejected the more it will discredit their process. If PoPLA allow 40% of appeals, and IAS 5% you can show to a judge that a win by the red Cow Mob has little going for it.

    I would suggest that, rather than shun them, we all deliberately set to lose on valid legal argument, (but without going into too much detail), and common sense. I am sure that we will come out on top in the end.

    I think there's merit in that argument. Furthermore, the IAS rejections are so ludicrously biased and unprofessional I think having one of those in your portfolio actually makes it less likely the PPC will bring a court case. None of the PPC, the IPC, Gladstones Solicitors or the anonymous adjudicator is going to want a real judge to see the codswallop they come out with!
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  • Coupon-madCoupon-mad
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    If you fancy setting out to try an IAS appeal then show your draft here. I do hope you didn't muck up the carefully worded first appeal template by admitting who was driving which is what your first post says...
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  • LucyLaLucyLa Forumite
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    If you fancy setting out to try an IAS appeal then show your draft here. I do hope you didn't muck up the carefully worded first appeal template by admitting who was driving which is what your first post says...

    Yeah I probably did muck it up

    "On the date 18.12.2014 I displayed a valid ticket on my car, registration O*** *** which was visible at the time of your notice being issued."

    That was my addition.
  • LucyLaLucyLa Forumite
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    I am now going to write to the land owner and complain. Do you think it would hurt to ask Norwich Traffic Control for their evidence?
  • edited 3 January 2015 at 9:29PM
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    edited 3 January 2015 at 9:29PM
    LucyLa wrote: »
    Yeah I probably did muck it up

    "On the date 18.12.2014 I displayed a valid ticket on my car, registration O*** *** which was visible at the time of your notice being issued."

    That was my addition.
    OMG, that's an example of what NOT to add to a carefully written appeal from the keeper - oh dear, why did it never dawn on you NOT to add 'me myself or I' when talking about the silly ticket - which you did not even have to add. Pointless, luckily it doesn't quite say who was driving - but it puts you there - which must have made the PPC laugh. I wouldn't bother to write at all to NTC, just complain to the landowner and as hoohoo says, you could appeal to the IPC stating you displayed a ticket and enclose your proof, why not? Your proof would need to be MORE than just a pic of the P&D ticket, you need to show it was displayed. Who cares if you lose at IAS (it's not binding on you) and I understand why some here suggest we should be doing these silly IAS appeals and if we lose them, complain to the DVLA every time.
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