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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    edited 1 January 2015 at 3:42PM
    Yes, in the UK any subsidy would be divided among 10 times as many taxpayers.
    But also, funny how Tarmac roads get built and maintained for some really low population areas.
  • System
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    I would think that physical access has a far higher priority than the internet
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  • System
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    buglawton wrote: »
    Yes, in the UK any subsidy would be divided among 10 times as many taxpayers..
    There are an estimated 30 million taxpayers in the UK (HMRC figures) so it only needs an extra £1000 per taxpayer assuming that all can afford that and it can be done within the expected cost.

    I'm sure that you are willing to have your income tax increased by that to pay for it?
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  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    !!!!!! wrote: »
    There are an estimated 30 million taxpayers in the UK so it only needs an extra £1000 per taxpayer assuming that all can afford that and it can be done within the expected cost.

    I'm sure that you are willing to have your income tax increased by that to pay for it?

    Please, if you need to use strawman arguments or pluck numbers out of thin air then I would suggest you haven't much to add to your point.
  • System
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    edited 1 January 2015 at 4:40PM
    The number of taxpayers weren't 'plucked out of thin air'

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/number-of-individual-income-taxpayers-by-marginal-rate-gender-and-age

    ETA

    I note your careful editing of my post to remove the reference to the figure I quoted just to enhance your spurious allegation of numbers plucked from the air.

    For info, the £30bn was calculated (not by me) based on the cost in Australia to FTTP 93% of the households. The figure was calculated in 2012 so may not be wholly accurate to to fluctuating costs
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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    What's your actual agenda?
    Do you really have something against every corner of the UK being brought up to modern standards?
  • System
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    No I just don't believe that is the simple affordable task that people seem to think.

    It's the glib, rose coloured spectacle view of the 'Make fibre broadband a right' type comment without being aware of costs, timescale and difficulties to actually achieve it that I object to
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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    To think that this thread might have been about getting a twisted pair of wires to someone's house. Tsk!
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    !!!!!! wrote: »
    It's the glib, rose coloured spectacle view of the 'Make fibre broadband a right' type comment without being aware of costs, timescale and difficulties to actually achieve it that I object to

    Hmm, you are the one focussing on fibre. No-one else mentioned making fibre a right (which would not make sense).

    As said earlier, in remote areas wireless technologies are much cheaper (that's how they did it in Finland for example).
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