Hypothetical question

trisontana

Double dipping is slightly different. This happens when you visit the same car park twice in a day but only the first entry and second exit are recorded .This then is wrongly flagged up as one long stay exceeding the permitted time.

What the OP is talking about is the scenario where driver A visits the car park and then leaves. Driver B (unknown to driver A) returns to the car park within the "no return in x hours" time frame and thus technically brreaks the PPC's rules.

Stonker

Correct..........

Redx

its still correct that the legal position of these matters can only be decided in a court of law , whether it be that you didnt wear the correct coloured ribbon in your hair on fish friday (rule 9 on the board, pink for girls and blue for boys and purple for pensioners) or the fact that the car made 3 shopping trips and broke the "no return within 2 hours" rule

these companies make up the rules to try to sc@m customers of the store, so whatever the rule , there will always be controversy about it

the fact that its an unregulated industry means they make up the rules as they go , like if one of you is seen leaving the car park and photographed (aka JAS parking) - or the driving round and round isnt parking (fistral beach)

so many debatable points, which tend to get answered in a court of law and not a forum

Umkomaas

Stonker wrote: »

OK, I wasn't worrying, I was just curious. Incidentally, I only used Aldi as an example out of the year, when I did get a PCN from PE in relation to Aldi before, Aldi were very fair with me and cancelled the charge once I had spoken to Rachel and established that I was a regular customer.

These words rarely go together in the context of Aldi/PE parking issues!

Stonker

I know. Only fair to share my experience though eh?

Umkomaas

Stonker wrote: »

I know. Only fair to share my experience though eh?

For sure, one among few!

You must be one sweet-talking MF!

TDA

AltheHibby wrote: »

Neither. The one on the train was no longer the driver when they handed the keys over. Not that the PPC plonkers care or understand that point. Their level of knowledge of legal niceties is such that one of them told me that to be waiting my wheels had to be moving!

Would have to disagree with you on this one.

Just because you've given the other person the keys doesn't suddenly make them the 'driver'. Clearly the crucial act of being the driver is to 'drive' the vehicle, not hold a bunch of keys.

In this scenario the individual who parked the car first off and then left site would be the one in breach, given that the case law suggests the acceptance of the contract is through the act of parking the vehicle. Still subject to all the usual issues of no-GPEOL though.

Matey boy in Staples has no contract with the PPC whatsoever, unless he hopped in the car and parked it somewhere else on site.

Interesting to hear that JAS actually photograph people leaving site. Rather creepy to say the least...

Stonker

Umkomaas wrote: »

For sure, one among few!

You must be one sweet-talking MF!

lol. She only wanted evidence that I was a regular shopper, even though I always pay cash.....

AltheHibby

TDA, looking at it from a 'who is in charge' point of view, we have changed drivers and the new driver takes on the old driver's role. I do see your point though.

Fergie76

A car cannot enter a contract, only a person, so the car returning twice within period is immaterial.

The PPC would have to prove that the same person returned and if the person does return, it might be for legitimate reasons, ie, product fault etc.