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I am very confident I never took PPI - should I still claim?

Until very recently I have always been in a lot of debt (downward spiral after university); loans, credit cards, you name it.

However, with the exception of a couple of loans I can remember taking out about 10-15 years ago (both of which I would not have consolidated into other loans before the full term was up, so maybe only had 2-3 years max), I am very confident that I have never agreed to PPI when taking out a loan. I have pretty much always arranged loans and credit cards online, and I would have been very vigilant about the PPI part as I have never agreed with it even before all this stuff came out. Unless a provider literally did not give me an option (not sure if this is likely anyway) I know for a fact I would have refused the option.

My question is: is it still worth claiming? People I have spoken to seem to suggest that even though I know I did not accept the PPI terms that it could somehow have been embedded into the APR or whatever in a different way. Is this true?

Thanks for help in advance
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  • Is this true?
    No, it's a myth.
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,273 Forumite
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    Claim what if you didn't pay any?

    No it's a claims company lie that PPI could be hidden in interest

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • It's a myth/lie supported by this website as part of the whole PPI piece. This quote from the Martin & Wendy article about PPI reclaims

    'Yet it's been widely mis-sold, and you could even have it without knowing'.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,163 Forumite
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    I have pretty much always arranged loans and credit cards online

    Which makes it harder to be mis-sold. Not impossible but harder.
    Unless a provider literally did not give me an option (not sure if this is likely anyway) I know for a fact I would have refused the option.

    There would have been an option.
    My question is: is it still worth claiming? People I have spoken to seem to suggest that even though I know I did not accept the PPI terms that it could somehow have been embedded into the APR or whatever in a different way. Is this true?

    That is a lie. It is not possible to embed PPI into the interest. It is certainly possible to not realise you have it by not reading the documentation but it is not hidden.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,273 Forumite
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    It's a myth/lie supported by this website as part of the whole PPI piece. This quote from the Martin & Wendy article about PPI reclaims

    'Yet it's been widely mis-sold, and you could even have it without knowing'.

    There is a degree of difference between PPI somehow being hidden in interest (which would make no sense as, for example, PPI being hidden in a credit card interest would mean all the items on the bill don't add up to the total you are being paid) and people being sold something by a salesman who skimmed over what you were paying without explaining it (or saying you had to have it to get the loan).

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Insider101
    Insider101 Posts: 1,062 Forumite
    jonnytekno wrote: »
    Until very recently I have always been in a lot of debt (downward spiral after university); loans, credit cards, you name it.

    However, with the exception of a couple of loans I can remember taking out about 10-15 years ago (both of which I would not have consolidated into other loans before the full term was up, so maybe only had 2-3 years max), I am very confident that I have never agreed to PPI when taking out a loan. I have pretty much always arranged loans and credit cards online, and I would have been very vigilant about the PPI part as I have never agreed with it even before all this stuff came out. Unless a provider literally did not give me an option (not sure if this is likely anyway) I know for a fact I would have refused the option.

    My question is: is it still worth claiming? People I have spoken to seem to suggest that even though I know I did not accept the PPI terms that it could somehow have been embedded into the APR or whatever in a different way. Is this true?

    Thanks for help in advance

    A "claim" is what you do if you suffer illness or unemployment and need to use the insurance.

    What you are talking about making is a complaint alleging that PPI was missold to you. How are you going to do that when you don't think you've ever bought the product?
  • Insider101
    Insider101 Posts: 1,062 Forumite
    It's a myth/lie supported by this website as part of the whole PPI piece. This quote from the Martin & Wendy article about PPI reclaims

    'Yet it's been widely mis-sold, and you could even have it without knowing'.

    I could set up my own website and write that the earth is flat and the moon made of cheese. You smell what I'm cooking?

    It is not possible to have PPI and not know it if you actually read your paperwork as the OP has stated he does.
  • WatchMan
    WatchMan Posts: 187 Forumite
    This quote from the Martin & Wendy article about PPI reclaims

    'Yet it's been widely mis-sold, and you could even have it without knowing'.

    That quote is, perhaps, a little sensationalist, but not completely untrue... as such.
  • GrimJim
    GrimJim Posts: 4 Newbie
    edited 28 December 2014 at 12:04AM
    jonnytekno wrote: »
    Until very recently I have always been in a lot of debt (downward spiral after university); loans, credit cards, you name it.

    However, with the exception of a couple of loans I can remember taking out about 10-15 years ago (both of which I would not have consolidated into other loans before the full term was up, so maybe only had 2-3 years max), I am very confident that I have never agreed to PPI when taking out a loan. I have pretty much always arranged loans and credit cards online, and I would have been very vigilant about the PPI part as I have never agreed with it even before all this stuff came out. Unless a provider literally did not give me an option (not sure if this is likely anyway) I know for a fact I would have refused the option.

    My question is: is it still worth claiming? People I have spoken to seem to suggest that even though I know I did not accept the PPI terms that it could somehow have been embedded into the APR or whatever in a different way. Is this true?

    Thanks for help in advance

    Yes! It's always worth checking.

    I was in exactly the same position as you are - I was sure I didn't have a PPI, but as it turned out I did and I was entitled to (and received) a refund.

    Never assume anything. Always check. It may benefit you in the long run.
  • GrimJim wrote: »
    Yes! It's always worth checking.

    I was in exactly the same position as you are - I was sure I didn't have a PPI, but as it turned out I did and I was entitled to (and received) a refund.

    Never assume anything. Always check. It may benefit you in the long run.
    And after finding you had a ppi you did not think you had, what was your complaint reason ?
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